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Videopac / Odyssey2 => Games => Topic started by: Janzl on April 03, 2011, 09:17:33 AM



Title: New games (prototypes) discovered!!!
Post by: Janzl on April 03, 2011, 09:17:33 AM
Hi everyone, this is great news!

About two months ago I was contacted by a developer of games for Videopac in the days of 1982/1983. He told me he liked my website and offered me his material from his programming days at Philips. He was going to get rid of them but he wanted his materials to get a good home.

You can, of course, imagine my reaction  ;D.

After a while of emailing back and forth I decided that it would be definately worth a trip to London, where he lived.
The day that I went there proved to be a happy one. We sat down and opened a box filled with eproms, I was in prototype heaven.

The following prototypes of known games are:

- Morse 2x
- RobotCity 4x
- Turtles
- Killer Bees
- Q-Bert 2x
- Terrahawks 2x
- Black Hole (Neutron Star) 3x
- (Play)Tag 2
- SuperCobra 2x
- SpiderMan 2x
- Popeye
- Frogger

These are already very nice to have, but the following is even better:

During testing I discovered 5 games/programs unknown to me:

1: Sound tool

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JYn6B7rxqw

I didn't know this tool and considered it new. Ren? has told me that he already has it. Because I didn't know that I thought more of you might not know it so I thought I should share this video.
This SoundTool was developed to help videopac programmers to generate their sound routines.


2: Himalaya


YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_lvOs6EnA4

How this game works is currently not really clear. The programmer only had some vague recollection of its purpose. He thought that in this game you were supposed to fly to Kathmandu.
I don't know if it is even finished.


3: Bastion

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFdmgs4r7_E

In this game you have to seige a tower by climbing on a ladder and defend yourself against the "rocks"(?) being thrown at you by the defender of the tower. When you get the chance you can fire an arrow at the defending soldier.
After you have reached the top you have won this level and it starts all over again.
The game is kind of playable, I am not sure if it is finished.


4: Catburglar

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDsWDFxy0oE

In this game you are a Catburglar trying to escape from the police by climbing a large building. On top of the building a helicopter will pick you up and you have escaped.
During your climb you have to avoid plants which are thrown to you by the buildings residents. Also windows turning white will make you fall down.
When you fall you will drop a certain distance. If you haven't climbed high enough you will crash on the ground ending up in a nice puddle of blood.
This is my favourite of all the new games and I actually think it has the very first bloodsprite made for the Videopac. This last feature must make GRGH very happy as he has been requesting this for quite some time now.


5: Terrahawks

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXk7OSA6NGg

This game has a very nice intro. After the intro you have to battle a giant spaceship with you own spaceship. Unfortunately your own spaceship is almost completely uncontrollable. I have managed to shoot certain parts off the spacehip but for the rest I am not aware of what I should do here. I don't think this game is finished.

This game is a bit of a mystery as Philips already released a game called Terrahawks.
My guess is that Philips made some kind of lisence deal with the authors of Terrahaks to make a game of the series. Maybe the game they developed came out bad (as in this prototype) and to spare time and costs they released the by Magnavox released game "Attack of the Timelord" under the name of "Terrahawks" in Europe.
This is a guess by me, not a confirmed fact.


Well that should make us happy again for a while I guess.
Of course there is more to be told but I will do that later on. Of all the info I got, and still will get, I will make a project in the future where all will be revealed.

Cheers everyone!


Title: Re: New games (prototypes) discovered!!!
Post by: ANDYRYALS on April 03, 2011, 01:29:09 PM
STELLAR! We now have more info on prototypes.


Title: Re: New games (prototypes) discovered!!!
Post by: Rafael on April 03, 2011, 03:58:34 PM
Wow. Congrats Janzl. It?s just amazing. Catburglar is a nice Crazy CLimber clone and really seems the funniest game. About Terrahawks, do you remeber a catalog posted here about Terrahawks 2 (or was it Attack of Timelord 2)? Thanks by posted that really nice videos.


Title: Re: New games (prototypes) discovered!!!
Post by: grgh on April 03, 2011, 05:22:50 PM
BLOOD!! Muuuuaaaaaahahahaha....
Can't believe you met this guy in London and didn't invite me along!


Title: Re: New games (prototypes) discovered!!!
Post by: Sweersa on April 03, 2011, 05:42:57 PM
This is awesome!  Well done, I really hope to see some of these released, especially the catburglar one with the rated M content! :P


Title: Re: New games (prototypes) discovered!!!
Post by: Seob on April 03, 2011, 08:24:04 PM
Miracles still happens. Great finds. Catburglar really looks great. Is Bastion a 2 player game? It looks like you have to keep the white line on the A line in between the red section, to progress. Intro in terrahawks really looks great.


Title: Re: New games (prototypes) discovered!!!
Post by: nathanallan on April 03, 2011, 10:39:11 PM
Very cool! Great to see that things are being found, you know there had to be LOTS of prototypes out there somewhere.


Title: Re: New games (prototypes) discovered!!!
Post by: ccc--- on April 04, 2011, 08:23:29 AM
Terrahawks is my favorite. Fantastic intro and great graphics there.


Title: Re: New games (prototypes) discovered!!!
Post by: VideopacBelgium on April 04, 2011, 10:40:50 AM
 G R E A T ! ! ! ! !


Title: Re: New games (prototypes) discovered!!!
Post by: Ozyr on April 05, 2011, 10:54:51 AM
So, the big question(s).... when do these things get tested for completion, and if done enough, released by whomever???!!!  8)

I'd buy the sound test and Catburglar right now, if they were available!


Title: Re: New games (prototypes) discovered!!!
Post by: Janzl on April 05, 2011, 01:15:48 PM
Thanks for all the nice replies :)

GRGH, I had no clue you lived in the neighbourhood. And in all my enthousiasm i totally didn't think of it hahaha.

Catburglar is indeed a crazy Climber clone, Rafael. I didn't know the game but I looked it up. It looks better then the atari version though >:D.

Bastion is a one player game. As far as I could figure out.

Indeed the big question is, what's going to happen next.

First, Ren? is going to check out all the eprom's. There is still one mystery eproms that doesn't work. It has A4800 written on it. Ren? is gonna check all the roms for error's and  see if he can get the A4800 rom to work.

I am planning on releasing Catburglar myself. I just always wanted to do my own release. So that will be the first one.  :)


Title: Re: New games (prototypes) discovered!!!
Post by: Seob on April 05, 2011, 10:32:28 PM
If you need help with the release, i'm willing to help, just let me know.


Title: Re: New games (prototypes) discovered!!!
Post by: Rafael on April 05, 2011, 11:19:18 PM
I?m very excited to play all these games. Himalaia can be very interesting, hope it be completed.


Title: Re: New games (prototypes) discovered!!!
Post by: Janzl on April 06, 2011, 09:34:31 AM
If you need help with the release, i'm willing to help, just let me know.

Thanks Seob, when the time comes I think I'm gonna need soldering people :) I am not a experienced solderer myself.


Title: Re: New games (prototypes) discovered!!!
Post by: Rene_G7400 on April 06, 2011, 09:56:57 AM
I am not a experienced solderer myself.

I am.  :)


Title: Re: New games (prototypes) discovered!!!
Post by: Seob on April 06, 2011, 04:35:15 PM
Me to  :)

Any info on who programmed them or what company programmed it? The person you spoke to, did he also program? If so what programs was he involved with?


Title: Re: New games (prototypes) discovered!!!
Post by: grgh on April 06, 2011, 04:51:44 PM
Yes I'm waiting for all this info as well, would like to know who he was and how he was involved from the UK (GST ???).


Title: Re: New games (prototypes) discovered!!!
Post by: Sweersa on April 06, 2011, 07:26:26 PM
I will pay good money to anyone who can find a Star Wars proto. :D


Title: Re: New games (prototypes) discovered!!!
Post by: Seob on April 06, 2011, 08:16:33 PM
I would like to see a Star Wars - The Empire Strikes Back clone on the Videopac, just like Janzl has made on this website.


Title: Re: New games (prototypes) discovered!!!
Post by: O2William on April 12, 2011, 08:18:47 AM
WOW... I can't believe these kinds of finds still exist after almost 30 years.  Way to go!

I join in with the others who are asking who the programmer is.  We should give him credit for his work, even if it is decades late.


Title: Re: New games (prototypes) discovered!!!
Post by: Seob on May 19, 2011, 09:14:20 PM
Hi Janzl, do you have more info on those protoypes? It's been a while, so i'm curious for more info.


Title: Re: New games (prototypes) discovered!!!
Post by: Rene_G7400 on May 19, 2011, 10:02:05 PM
Yeah, me too!  >:D


Title: Re: New games (prototypes) discovered!!!
Post by: Janzl on May 20, 2011, 02:37:03 PM
Nope sorry, not yet.

Please be patient :-) I am working on some things but I run 389 companies ;) so it might take a while still...

Jeez... can't you guys just be happy that we have discovered some new games..?

Are you always nagging like that..?

When you were born... did the doctor turn around and slap your mother!?

I'll keep you posted  ;D


Title: Re: New games (prototypes) discovered!!!
Post by: Seob on May 20, 2011, 06:39:24 PM
Just wasn't sure if this would be another crazy horse.  ;)
Nope we can't wait. Ever seen a kid inside a candy store. Try telling him he can't eat the candy.


Title: Re: New games (prototypes) discovered!!!
Post by: grgh on May 20, 2011, 06:59:08 PM
Where do you think my cows covered in blood nightmare comes from!
(ok, that might be a bit too graphic...)


Title: Re: New games (prototypes) discovered!!!
Post by: Janzl on May 20, 2011, 08:48:57 PM
Just wasn't sure if this would be another crazy horse.  ;)

Hey, I showed you the games on youtube, so it's not a Crazy Horse!   >:D


Title: Re: New games (prototypes) discovered!!!
Post by: manopac on May 21, 2011, 09:45:13 AM
Please be patient :-) I am working on some things but I run 389 companies ;) so it might take a while still...

 :D :D :D


Title: Re: New games (prototypes) discovered!!!
Post by: dronspa on October 15, 2011, 08:50:20 AM
Wow!!  :o

After months years out of collecting Videopac stuff, this are the most impressive news in the scene!

Great find Janzl! ...and great videos on youtube!

Thanks!!!


Title: Re: New games (prototypes) discovered!!!
Post by: Janzl on October 15, 2011, 10:11:12 AM
Thanks Dronspa!

Good to see you are back!  8)


Title: Re: New games (prototypes) discovered!!!
Post by: Rafael on January 29, 2012, 10:01:29 PM
 :'(

Any news about these games ???
Is already possible to know if Himalaya and Terrahawks are fully playble?
ROMS >:D


Title: Re: New games (prototypes) discovered!!!
Post by: Janzl on January 31, 2012, 07:11:03 PM
Nope... no news sorry.

Well there is a bit of news.

There was one eprom called a48 of which at first we thought it wasn't working.
Later on, Ren? dicovered that it is a program that can make the G7000 communicate with external hardware. You can send data through a serial connection to the VDC. (Ren?, correct me if I'm wrong.)


Title: Re: New games (prototypes) discovered!!!
Post by: gertk on January 31, 2012, 07:26:37 PM
Is the binary available ?


Title: Re: New games (prototypes) discovered!!!
Post by: chirinea on August 14, 2012, 07:25:20 PM
So, Janzl, do you at least know what the GT logo in Robot City and Neutron Star stands for? Are those the initials of this guy who gave you the EPROMs?  ???


Title: Re: New games (prototypes) discovered!!!
Post by: Janzl on August 14, 2012, 09:59:53 PM
I will let you know in the not-so-far future :)


Title: Re: New games (prototypes) discovered!!!
Post by: ANDYRYALS on August 16, 2012, 10:17:55 PM
i may even release crazy horses as well.  ;)


Title: Re: New games (prototypes) discovered!!!
Post by: Janzl on August 17, 2012, 08:51:15 AM
From Websters dictionary:
Crazy Horse \ˈkrā-zē\ˈhȯrs\

1: Commonly accepted term used in videogameworld describing a promise made to fire-up enthousiasm for a game and trying to keep enthousiasm fired up, using the aid of mystery, until time passed will make promise seem obsolete and or game seem non-existant or hoax.

 :P ;D

P.s. the date for the release of more info on the proto's is set and will be soon  8)


Title: Re: New games (prototypes) discovered!!!
Post by: Rene_G7400 on August 17, 2012, 09:28:45 AM
From Websters dictionary:
Crazy Horse \ˈkrā-zē\ˈhȯrs\

1: Commonly accepted term used in videogameworld describing a promise made to fire-up enthousiasm for a game and trying to keep enthousiasm fired up, using the aid of mystery, until time passed will make promise seem obsolete and or game seem non-existant or hoax.

 :P ;D

 ;D  ;D


Title: Re: New games (prototypes) discovered!!!
Post by: ANDYRYALS on August 17, 2012, 07:36:17 PM
From Websters dictionary:
Crazy Horse \ˈkrā-zē\ˈhȯrs\

1: Commonly accepted term used in videogameworld describing a promise made to fire-up enthousiasm for a game and trying to keep enthousiasm fired up, using the aid of mystery, until time passed will make promise seem obsolete and or game seem non-existant or hoax.

 :P ;D

P.s. the date for the release of more info on the proto's is set and will be soon  8)



LOL, this put a smile on my face!  :)


Title: Re: New games (prototypes) discovered!!!
Post by: Janzl on August 18, 2012, 10:22:43 AM
As intended  ;D

So when do we get a peek at the Crazy Horse game? (and I don't meen a pic of the proto ;))


Title: Re: New games (prototypes) discovered!!!
Post by: darrin9999 on October 18, 2012, 11:40:05 PM
As intended  ;D

So when do we get a peek at the Crazy Horse game? (and I don't meen a pic of the proto ;))

Any news on Crazy Horse?


Title: Re: New games (prototypes) discovered!!!
Post by: Janzl on October 19, 2012, 08:11:41 AM
Any news on Crazy Horse?

 :D :D :D


Title: Re: New games (prototypes) discovered!!!
Post by: Janzl on October 19, 2012, 04:49:52 PM

Sorry, that wasn't very polite of me. Point is, we are waiting since 2007 for more news of this game, hence the LOL-smiley's.


Title: Re: New games (prototypes) discovered!!!
Post by: ANDYRYALS on November 05, 2012, 09:31:00 PM
i may get this thing dumped and released in 2013 but it depends on if I have enough time.


Title: Re: New games (prototypes) discovered!!!
Post by: VideopacBelgium on November 05, 2012, 10:59:06 PM
i may get this thing dumped and released in 2013 but it depends on if I have enough time.

:)