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Videopac / Odyssey2 => Hardware => Topic started by: BeanoDK on July 19, 2013, 03:14:32 PM



Title: Joystick alternatives?
Post by: BeanoDK on July 19, 2013, 03:14:32 PM
I own two G7000 joysticks (the unplugable ones) but one is defective - can't move to the left - so it's useless :(

So I was wondering what to do - any joystick clones or adaptors to buy?  Or maybe a common problem thats easy to fix?


Title: Re: Joystick alternatives?
Post by: Rene_G7400 on July 19, 2013, 04:28:43 PM
Are you sure the problem is in the joystick, not in the G7000 console?
Could also be a joystick cable issue.


Title: Re: Joystick alternatives?
Post by: BeanoDK on July 19, 2013, 04:40:21 PM
The functioning joystic works perfectly with the console in both ports, so yes I'm sure.


Title: Re: Joystick alternatives?
Post by: Tom31 on July 20, 2013, 09:13:05 AM
It's not for the G7000 but i made an adapter for my G7400 to the Neo Geo Stick and it works great.


Title: Re: Joystick alternatives?
Post by: BeanoDK on July 22, 2013, 09:30:06 PM
I have seen someone mention that they modded their Videopac with a DB9 port so it could be used with a Atari joystick which may be easier to get hold of than a Videopac joystick (?). Have someone here tried that and able to share how this is done?



Title: Re: Joystick alternatives?
Post by: Rafael on July 23, 2013, 02:14:57 AM
I really like to see some "new" Odyssey joystick using the structure of original brokened controls. Back in the days I used Atari controls on my Ody #1, it was not so good like the originals.


Title: Re: Joystick alternatives?
Post by: gertk on July 23, 2013, 07:49:06 AM
I have seen someone mention that they modded their Videopac with a DB9 port so it could be used with a Atari joystick which may be easier to get hold of than a Videopac joystick (?). Have someone here tried that and able to share how this is done?

You could place two DIN-6 (270 degrees) chassis mounts on the back of the G700/Odyssey2 and use the later Videopac controllers (with the detachable joysticks) or simply mount two DB9 male connectors and use all Atari compatible (not just Atari) joysticks. Just make sure you do not have electronic gadgets inside the joysticks as the Videopac (normally) has no power pin on the joystick connectors.

Pinouts are just a Google away.


Title: Re: Joystick alternatives?
Post by: BeanoDK on July 23, 2013, 07:54:06 AM
As I wrote, the joysticks on my unit are already detachable. Besides, spare joystick are not easy to find for sale which is why Im looking for alternatives ;)

Can you direct me to pinouts for a DB9 adaptor?

Thanks.


Title: Re: Joystick alternatives?
Post by: revivalstudios on July 23, 2013, 11:53:47 AM
i've got a wole lot of videopac joysticks if you are interested.


Title: Re: Joystick alternatives?
Post by: BeanoDK on July 23, 2013, 11:58:34 AM
I am :) ...can you PM me price and details?

Looking for G7000 joystick with old style plugs and maybe a G7400 joystick also.


Title: Re: Joystick alternatives?
Post by: gertk on July 23, 2013, 07:32:36 PM
You could take a DB9 male-male straight cable and cut it in half and attach DIN6 plugs at the end.
I have made a set of adapter cables like that.


Title: Re: Joystick alternatives?
Post by: BeanoDK on July 24, 2013, 05:52:38 PM
Ok thanks.

I managed to get my G7000 joystick working today. The board inside the joystick was cracked which broke a few connections. I glued the board back together and re-soldered the broken connections - and now it works perfectly... yay :D

However, I'm still looking for a G7400 joystick - the kind with a round 6 pin plug (I don't know the correct name). If anyone in Europe are willing to sell me one, please PM me. Thanks.

Edit: I noticed that the plug for Atari 2600 is the same as for the G7000 I own - is it compatible without modification or do I need to make an adaptor?
Again, any concrete help is welcome.


Title: Re: Joystick alternatives?
Post by: Seob on July 25, 2013, 09:02:22 AM
Not compatible, pinouts are different.
http://www.the-nextlevel.com/odyssey2/articles/2600joysticks/ (http://www.the-nextlevel.com/odyssey2/articles/2600joysticks/)


Title: Re: Joystick alternatives?
Post by: BeanoDK on July 25, 2013, 09:17:43 AM
Just the info I was looking for - thanks :D


Title: Re: Joystick alternatives?
Post by: BeanoDK on July 26, 2013, 05:03:06 PM
You could take a DB9 male-male straight cable and cut it in half and attach DIN6 plugs at the end.
I have made a set of adapter cables like that.

Do you have the pin-out for that?

I have the cables now and just need to solder correctly so I can use my G7000 joysticks (DB9 plug) on my G74000 console (DIN6 plugs)

Thanks in advance :)


Title: Re: Joystick alternatives?
Post by: VideopacBelgium on July 26, 2013, 06:30:05 PM
1: Action
2: left
3: down
4: up
5: gnd
6: right
The male din plug in front of you.


Title: Re: Joystick alternatives?
Post by: BeanoDK on July 26, 2013, 07:32:56 PM
Thanks - Ill try to wire it up tomorrow ;)


Title: Re: Joystick alternatives?
Post by: BeanoDK on July 26, 2013, 09:22:09 PM
Well.. I could'nt wait and soldered up two adaptors tonight so I can use my G7000 joysticks on my G7400  :)

Thanks!

Will make a few Atari->G7000/G7400 adaptors as soon as I get a Atari joystick or two, and some plugs also ;D


Title: Re: Joystick alternatives?
Post by: BeanoDK on July 31, 2013, 06:08:15 PM
Got my Atari->Videopac (D-SUB9) adaptors made :D

Bought a Atari joystick & mouse extension cable from eBay...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Joystick-and-Mouse-Extension-Cable-Port-Protector-Saver-Amiga-Atari-ST-C64-SEGA-/271233782341?pt=UK_VintageComputing_RL&hash=item3f26cb1245

I cut both cables in half. Since the extension cable is fully wired, I just re-wired it based on the Atari and Videopac joystick pinouts. Sealed the two cords with Sugru (great stuff btw!) and done... two adaptor cables. Cheap and easy ;)

And with the two G7000->G74000 adaptors I made previously, I can use any Atari compatible joystick with both my Videopac consoles - problem solved.


Title: Re: Joystick alternatives?
Post by: gertk on August 06, 2013, 09:43:35 AM
Those extrension cables are very useful mod cables  :)

I used one of these to make TI99/4A joystickadapter cable so I could use standard joysticks on it (The TI99 has a single DB9 port on which both joysticks are connected through a diode matrix)