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Title: Bottomless Pit
Post by: Chris! on June 07, 2018, 05:23:07 AM
So I thought since someone was making Doodle Jump for the Atari 2600 that I thought I would try to. What looks simple is actually complex, too complex for me, especially with the scrolling, so I decided to make a game SORT OF like Doodle Jump. There's platforms, an always jumping character, but instead of scrolling, the platform you just jumped on disappears, so you're always trying to jump on a platform. I just started on the game, so this is all I have so far. What do you think?


Title: Re: Bottomless Pit
Post by: Janzl on June 07, 2018, 08:56:48 AM
Great idea, I love these kind of games.

A couple of years ago I was thinking of doing one myself but I'm simply lacking time & skills.

Did a mock-up for it though.



Title: Re: Bottomless Pit
Post by: Chris! on June 07, 2018, 06:20:00 PM
Despite my horrible eyeache last night, I worked on the game. I also worked on it a little bit more this morning. Here's what I have so far. I have a playable binary file right now, but there's no score. This should give you a sense of what I want to create.


Title: Re: Bottomless Pit
Post by: Rafael on June 09, 2018, 08:20:44 PM
I did not know the game, so I went to AA to find out more about doodle jump and downloaded the rom. It's a fun and addictive game, so it's a good idea to follow this project, Chris. As usual, the hints: Fun sprites add fun to the game, Janzl has good sprites, maybe you could use them. You could also try a fun springy sound, or something like that ...Go ahead!!!!


Title: Re: Bottomless Pit
Post by: Chris! on June 10, 2018, 01:27:49 AM
Replaced the sprites to look more like Janzl's.


Title: Re: Bottomless Pit
Post by: Chris! on June 10, 2018, 10:52:51 AM
It took a while and a few false starts, but I have a semi-working version of Doodle Jump here. The score will be on the right hand side of the screen. This is so the platforms' x positions can be fair to get to without having to go through the whole screen to get to one. What do you think?


Title: Re: Bottomless Pit
Post by: Janzl on June 10, 2018, 02:46:28 PM
Replaced the sprites to look more like Janzl's.


Nice!  8)


Title: Re: Bottomless Pit
Post by: Rafael on June 17, 2018, 01:12:23 AM
Why are you using half of screen?


Title: Re: Bottomless Pit
Post by: Chris! on August 01, 2018, 08:03:26 PM
So after hours upon hours of starting from scratch again, I finally got a version where the pit keeps going downward. Why? Because I can't get it to stop properly. So I guess it will have to be like this.


Title: Re: Bottomless Pit
Post by: Chris! on August 02, 2018, 05:58:59 PM
Got rid of the static at the top of the screen. Just wondering if I should change the color of the jumper so it looks less like KC?


Title: Re: Bottomless Pit
Post by: Chris! on August 04, 2018, 06:23:45 PM
New version.
What do you think?


Title: Re: Bottomless Pit
Post by: Rafael on August 05, 2018, 09:07:14 PM
Heres my sugestions:

I like the platforms moving more only when the player jumps. This is important for the player to make a strategic decision and seek the best leap.
Maybe, if you use cut squares (who knows 2 side-by-side) maybe the game will be aesthetically more interesting.
I also find the platforms with different colors cooler. Another cool option would be to make them change color, as the Attack of Timelord invaders, is very 80's.
Could you use the grid for the lateral boundaries
Lastly, this built-ins sounds are commonly annoying ...


Title: Re: Bottomless Pit
Post by: Chris! on August 06, 2018, 10:42:01 PM
I can't make the platforms stop moving downwards.
I've put the grid back in. And I was thinking about making the platforms all one color, but I don't know. It does look a lot better having them be multiple colors.
And if I can find the sound making o2 program someone made, I will work on adding non-built in sounds (It got lost when my computer died a few years ago.)


Title: Re: Bottomless Pit
Post by: Chris! on August 06, 2018, 11:16:30 PM
New version.


Title: Re: Bottomless Pit
Post by: Chris! on August 08, 2018, 12:04:58 AM
I don't see how Rafael hates the built-in sounds. I think they give the game a certain low-tech charm. Nevertheless, I tried to put in new sounds. In my opinion it didn't really go in well. I found the Sound Creator tool, so it helped. Version 16 tested and working on a real Odyssey 2.


Title: Re: Bottomless Pit
Post by: Rafael on August 08, 2018, 01:18:28 AM
In a sense the sounds have always been wronged, but it is no coincidence that the best games in the system have received special treatment in all aspects, including the sounds: Killer Bees, Turtles, Timelord, the two Munchkins ... I am sure their respective programmers did a series of tests to find the right sounds for each action. When I was a child I tried to understand what was in the other systems and what was missing in Odyssey, so at the house of friends who had Atari / Intv, some things surprised me. One thing I remember well is the Smurf falling into the water in the 2600's. The Intv was fantastic, the battle between He-Man and skeleton in the castle was "epic" and much of it was due to the metal sound of the swords touching. Of course, this is just my opinion, but I think that, as far as possible, one should give each thing its due sound. I think the best way to say this is by comparing two games in the same style:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAMgx_PgpbE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvnqFumN_lE



Title: Re: Bottomless Pit
Post by: Chris! on August 08, 2018, 05:04:56 AM
Since I can't find an unusual sound and the fact that it isn't playing properly (I think I broke it), I'm afraid I'm going to have to put in the stock sounds again. I've also added a rock that falls that you must avoid. Either it or the banana comes on screen.


Title: Re: Bottomless Pit
Post by: Chris! on August 17, 2018, 05:58:41 AM
Made it so it doesn't continually scroll up.


Title: Re: Bottomless Pit
Post by: Rafael on August 18, 2018, 06:37:09 PM
It's getting nice 8)


Title: Re: Bottomless Pit
Post by: Rafael on August 19, 2018, 02:45:30 AM
55 is my high for while