Videopac / Odyssey2 forum

About this forum. => Read this first! => Topic started by: Janzl on August 26, 2007, 08:14:10 AM



Title: About this forum...
Post by: Janzl on August 26, 2007, 08:14:10 AM
Hello everybody, I have made this forum because of the sudden disappearance of the Videopac.org forum. I hope some people of the old forum will help me moderating it.

If you find this forum and you know other peoples from the old forum, let them know.

It is not my intention to replace Richard's forum and when it will get back online I'll be overthere too.

Thank you very much,

Robbert

Let me know what you guys think.

PS. I will create a videopac look for this forum, but unfortunately I will not be able to work on it for the comming week because I will be in Amsterdam. I will be able to reply because they have internet in Amsterdam too. ;)


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: grgh on August 28, 2007, 02:17:01 AM
Hi Robbert,

Many thanks for this, it is much appreciated by me that you have got this up and running so quick when we are all wondering what has happened. I hope Richard is OK. I know he had been missing for some weeks and now I'm worried something may have happened to him  :'(

Being based in the UK, I may be better placed to find out more than others, but I came to realise that all contact details such as email addesses and postal addresses appear to be in my personal messages  :(

Thanks to Rene, ever the source of all knowledge he sent me the link to this via his phone from on holiday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I just can't put enough exclamation marks about how helpful Rene always is  ;D

Hope to see more people find this soon  ???

Cheers, George.


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: grgh on August 28, 2007, 02:21:11 AM
P.S. If anyone has posting access to http://www.digitpress.com/forum can they post a link to here? It was the first place I looked, but although I registered several days ago I still don't have access to post.


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Rafael on August 28, 2007, 03:09:23 AM
Hi Robbert,

Many thanks for this, it is much appreciated by me that you have got this up and running so quick when we are all wondering what has happened. I hope Richard is OK. I know he had been missing for some weeks and now I'm worried something may have happened to him  :'(
Thanks to Rene, ever the source of all knowledge he sent me the link to this via his phone from on holiday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I just can't put enough exclamation marks about how helpful Rene always is  ;D

Hope to see more people find this soon  ???

Cheers, George.
Yes, Robert many thanks :D
Someone know what happened with Richard?
And I also thanks to Ren? to send me this link.


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Rafael on August 28, 2007, 03:16:50 AM
P.S. If anyone has posting access to http://www.digitpress.com/forum can they post a link to here? It was the first place I looked, but although I registered several days ago I still don't have access to post.

I sent the link to Digitpress and Atariage where some people was asking about the Vpac Forum.


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: grgh on August 28, 2007, 03:29:36 AM
Thanks for that, I found the link on atariage, but not digital press, do you have a link for there?
Lets get the message out about this location just so everyine stays in touch while we find out what has happened to Richard.


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Ozyr on August 28, 2007, 04:06:45 AM
It is not my intention to replace Richard's forum and when it will get back online I'll be overthere too.

I hope someone contacts Richard and finds out what is going on. There was a LOT of info on his forum, that would be lost if it doesn't come back!

And if videopac.org does come back (I hope it is just a renewal thing), I really don't want two VP forums (no offense here, but one is more than enough). Just my opinion.... no offense intended...


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: RickO2 on August 28, 2007, 04:31:47 AM
Thanks for giving us a voice Robbert.  I really hope all is well with Richard.  Videopac.org was such a great site it would be a shame if all of that great info was lost.



Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Janzl on August 28, 2007, 11:53:37 AM
Hi all,

Thanks for all the reply's.

Ozyr, no worries, I just put this forum up as a substitute for the Old VP forum. I also hope that Richard gets back up and running.
If so, I will cancel this forum. The old forum was indeed filled with VP knowledge and would be a great waist if it got lost.

Thanks again everybody and spread the word!!

Janzl


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Ozyr on August 28, 2007, 07:51:57 PM
Sounds cool! If for some reason Richard can't get his site back up, for whatever reason, I would hope we could at least get at the SQL database that still resided on his webhost's site. They usually don't delete this immediately. I'm sure much of the info could be pulled from this.


Oh, on the side, has anyone been able to contact Richard!? I thought I had his email, but I don't, thus I cannot try to contact him directly that way!  :(


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Seob on August 28, 2007, 09:42:57 PM
Hello back again.
Crazy how you start missing things if it stops working suddenly.
I hope we can find Richard and that he's oke.
If anybody has the email adres of andy(...) i don't exactly know his full name please pm me since i want to contact him.

Thanks Janzl for your work in getting this forum up.

For those that have bought some of my games. I have posted them saturday so they are on the way. Dronspa please contact me i have a tracking code for you so you can track the parcel.


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: grgh on August 29, 2007, 12:27:33 AM
Hi Seob,
I think your after Andy Ryals, I don't have an email for him but I found his work phone number which might be one way if you want to contact him urgently.
Cheers, George.


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: grgh on August 29, 2007, 12:58:10 AM
I think I've worled out Richard phone number as well from the whois info, and I've emailed him directly. I'm on training the next three days and going straight from there to decorating a flat, but maybe get a chance to give it a try...


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Rene_G7400 on August 29, 2007, 02:14:47 PM
I'm not sure how long the webhost of videopac.org will keep the database, maybe we can save some of the posts through google's cache.


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Seob on August 29, 2007, 07:39:13 PM
My cache is empty. In order to keep my pc clean and running i've set the cache for 1 day only.
Yes i ment Andy Ryals, but i don't need to contact him urgenly. After all i think he was on holiday to greece or something. Hope he didn't got smoked away. I'll just wait for his e-mail or seeing him popping up here.


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Janzl on August 29, 2007, 08:00:46 PM
Hi all,

I've checked my cache too but unfortunately nothing is left there anymore.

I'm thinking of putting an add on ebay for this forum so most of the old chaps will find out that there is a new forum. I have already entered the forum into google but it can take up to 30 days before it starts showing up there.

Anyone else any idea's?

Greetings,

Janzl


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Seob on August 29, 2007, 08:40:09 PM
Is it not possible to contact the host of videopac.org,ukhost4u.com and ask them if it is possible to get access to the data for saving?
You could also write to http://odysseymania.classicgaming.com.br/ (http://odysseymania.classicgaming.com.br/) asking him to put this forum online.
Write to http://www.packratvg.com/index.html (http://www.packratvg.com/index.html).
Write to http://odyssey2.classicgaming.gamespy.com/ (http://odyssey2.classicgaming.gamespy.com/)
Make a link on your site to the forum.


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Janzl on August 29, 2007, 09:38:49 PM
Well, if the videopac.org host is gonna release the database I guess I'll first need permission from Richard as he is the owner. So we first need to get in touch with him.

I have never fisited the forum from odysseymania but his site is in spanish so I guess his forum is too. But we can always try off course  :)

I will write to Packrat and odyssey2.classicgaming.

Keep the idea's pooring in please  :)


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Janzl on August 29, 2007, 10:20:57 PM
fisited? Oh my dog... I need some sleep I guess...   :-X

Does anyone know if the site http://odyssey2.classicgaming.gamespy.com is still active? His last post was in 2006 and his contact page gives a 404 error.



Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Seob on August 29, 2007, 10:27:02 PM
Ask dieter koening from http://www.dieterkoenig.at/ccc/ (http://www.dieterkoenig.at/ccc/)
Ask Ozyr to put your link up there http://www.ozyr.com/o2/o2.html (http://www.ozyr.com/o2/o2.html)
Ask PDF at http://www.thelogbook.com/odyssey/ (http://www.thelogbook.com/odyssey/)
Ask Mano at http://www.videopac-home.nl/ (http://www.videopac-home.nl/)
Ask rene to put a link on his site http://www.geocities.com/rene_g7400/index.html (http://www.geocities.com/rene_g7400/index.html)
Ask Steelballs (relatives of you) for a link on his site http://home.wanadoo.nl/littledinky/Retro-consoles/sega-nintendo-coleco-atari/index.htm (http://home.wanadoo.nl/littledinky/Retro-consoles/sega-nintendo-coleco-atari/index.htm)
Hope i didn't forget someone


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Janzl on August 29, 2007, 10:37:29 PM
Got most of them already  ;) Thank anyway !


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: grgh on August 29, 2007, 11:49:29 PM
No reply from Richard to the email yet  :(

I think google indexes based on the number of links to your pages, so the more people that add links to here the better.

Definitely see if you can get Rene to add a link, because if I do a google search for "videopac forum" then Renes page is top of the result.


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Rene_G7400 on August 30, 2007, 01:15:08 AM


Definitely see if you can get Rene to add a link, because if I do a google search for "videopac forum" then Renes page is top of the result.

I'll do that when I'm back home!!!



Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Rene_G7400 on August 30, 2007, 01:23:24 AM
Is it not possible to contact the host of videopac.org,ukhost4u.com and ask them if it is possible to get access to the data for saving?

I've contacted them, they won't do anything unless you're the owner of the website.


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Rene_G7400 on August 30, 2007, 01:33:47 AM
Hi all,

I've checked my cache too but unfortunately nothing is left there anymore.

I didn't mean your personal cache, but the cache at google.com . I've seen a cache of videopac.org at google dated 16 august 2007.



Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: fernandotcl on August 30, 2007, 04:11:49 AM
Hello all (thanks for the tip, thunderstruck).

Let's hope videopac.org comes back soon, there's a lot of golden material there, it would be a shame if we just lost that.

Btw, I don't know if anyone else is having the same problem, but I can only load the first 2096 (yes, 2096, not 2048 or 4096) bytes from www.videopac.nl, then the server stops responding. I'm browsing from a proxy atm.


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Janzl on August 30, 2007, 04:52:41 PM
That is strange... ??? I'm not having these problems myself. I'll check with my host.

Anyone else having these problems?


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Ozyr on August 30, 2007, 07:29:16 PM
I think google indexes based on the number of links to your pages, so the more people that add links to here the better.

Google mainly gets its ranking from the code in your website. I've found this out years ago - if you have really good meta setup in the code, Google will find you and put you near the top of the list when people search for specific sites. It has worked very well for myself and my two sites and blogs.

As for a link to here, I will put one on my site within the week (probably over the weekend).

P.S. One thing, since you just have this listed as the Videopac forum, people searching for Odyssey2 may not easily find it using Google - make sure you put Odyssey2 in a meta file. Not sure where these would be in this particular forum software - sorry, I only know phpBB.


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Seob on August 30, 2007, 08:35:16 PM
How do you search in google cache? Never heard of it, but very interessed.


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: manopac on August 30, 2007, 10:19:36 PM
The ebay-ad was a great idea  :) Hi everybody again !


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: fernandotcl on August 30, 2007, 10:50:40 PM
How do you search in google cache? Never heard of it, but very interessed.
You can just find the site in Google (a regular search will do) and then click the link named "Cached" for the entry you need. Perhaps there's a more straightforward way to do it, but that's the only way I know.

That is strange... ??? I'm not having these problems myself. I'll check with my host.

Anyone else having these problems?
Apparently it's related to the OS:

- XP, direct connection: works
- XP, behind NAT: didn't test
- Linux, direct connection: doesn't work
- Linux, behind NAT: doesn't work

The Linux boxes I connected from are completely unrelated and are completely distinct setups. I'll be able to test from a FreeBSD proxy tomorrow or next week.

I don't think your host is firewalling by OS fingerprinting, so it could be path MTU discovery or some other kind of configuration screw ups. Your host is accepting ICMP echo discoveries, though, so I don't understand why they would block other ICMP messages. Anyways, I'll double-check MTUs and ICMP blocking rules here. Could be related to TCP window sizes as well. I'll take a look at it when I have a bit of spare time, probably next week.


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: mjb on August 30, 2007, 10:52:25 PM
Likewise found the link on ebay great idea


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Janzl on August 30, 2007, 10:58:56 PM
Fernandotcl, thanks for all the efforts. I'm not that well advanced on the technical level of server technics so I hope I can rely on you a little bit here.



Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: dronspa on August 31, 2007, 01:09:30 AM
I was newbie on videopac.org, but it's nice to see all of you here.

I hope all it's ok with Richard... I had a problem buying Clay Piggeon and I mailed him on last 26 july... but no response, and I didn't see online in the forums.


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Ozyr on August 31, 2007, 02:29:33 AM
I'm thinking of putting an add on ebay for this forum so most of the old chaps will find out that there is a new forum. I have already entered the forum into google but it can take up to 30 days before it starts showing up there.

Janzl

I'm curious as to why you would put this on ebay?! To sell the forum, or to just promote it - and how would you promote it through ebay!? If you are just trying to promote the new location, just give it time, simple as that. Richard's site took about 3-6 months to really establish itself once people knew it was there (and it had been stagnant for about 1-2 years before it became popular). These things just take time. Lay back, relax, and just let people find this place.

If Richard is gone somehow (I hope not), wouldn't it just be best to leave this forum in place, or do you not want to host it long term?

Just curious here... as there are options if this is not to be a permanent home for a O2/VP forum.


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Janzl on August 31, 2007, 09:38:06 AM
Hi Ozyr,

I have decided to put it on ebay to help the old members of videopac.org find it. I couldnt think of a better spot where all the old members could be found.

I guess almost everybody has the same problem: where is the forum ? and where should I go now. Thats the only reason. Selling didn't even come in mind, in fact I have explicitely stated in the add that the forum is not for sale but that I'm just using eBay to help people find the forum.
I had this habit of watching the forum everyday and it was really like a very cold shower when it was gone.

I do plan to host it long term if Richards forum doesn't come back again. But initially I put it online as a substitute.

I guess the whole dissapearance of the forum is to much of a cold turkey for many of us  ;D

The add is a one time thing, from now on the forum should indeed establish itself.


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: ccc--- on August 31, 2007, 10:28:20 AM
I contacted the hosting company of videopac.org, told them that I am administrator of the forums and also have an email address there (ccc@videopac.org), with very important data in the forums and my mailbox. I offered them to pay the hosting for one additional year so that we have access to the data, but they declined:

Quote
Dear Customer,

I am afraid as this is not your account it is therefore not your data and we can not release it to you.

It seems that there is absolutely no way to access the forum and email data until Richard pays his bills (at least I presume that this is the reason for the suspension). Loads of very important data would be lost.


Two days after videopac.org disappeared, I had a forum finished on my new Classic Consoles Center website (which is not online yet), but was too slow to announce it - Robbert was faster with his forum. On my new CCC website I will concentrate on Videopac, Creativision and Interton. I have there the only Creativision and Interton forums in the world, and the Videopac forum would have fit there perfectly. But as Richard had his forum, I never promoted mine. Now with the disappearance of videopac.org there was my chance but alas, I was too slow.


Anyway, as Richard did not reply to anyone so far (I hope he is well), it's hard to decide what to do. Retyping all the important data (for example the Sherlock release) is really a lot of work - I don't want to do that when maybe the old forum goes online again two days later ...

Has anyone from the UK guys tried to reach Richard by telephone?


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: ANDYRYALS on August 31, 2007, 10:42:12 AM
HHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How the f**cking hell are you lot  ;D ;D ;D

Nice to see the old crowd back on the net, I found this via ebay, good idea. Man what a bugger about videopac.org, I cant believe its down. If Richard ever comes back on the scene I think he will have a lot of explaining to do. I had Stephen Lister (LIST) email and now I have lost it, he should be invited back. He was one of the founding poster on the original forums, anyone got any info. ?

Well I didn't get smoked in Greece, nearly did in Albania!! Dieter, I agree with you regarding Sherlock, but considering virtually nothing got organised apart from a few areas which people were going to cover I cant see it being that much of a problem setting up the forum, again and starting to get the game released as well (well spend another year debating it ::).

I hope all you guys are ok, I have book marked this forum and intend to post to it many hundreds of times to make it very popular indeed! 


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: ccc--- on August 31, 2007, 11:08:22 AM
BTW: I sent Richard an old-fashioned letter yesterday which he should receive on Monday or so. Maybe this is a way to reach him.


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Janzl on August 31, 2007, 01:36:07 PM
Well It is going well, more people are pooring in and the respones are positive  :)

Dieter, I don't want to go into some videopac forum competition, if people decide to go with your forum thats fine by me  :)

My goal is that there simply is a videopac forum, as anybody else I, prefer that the old videopac.org forum would be back. Lets just hope that Richard gets back into the picture.


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: TedFoolery on August 31, 2007, 03:37:51 PM
Thanks to all who notified me of the new forum.

I regularly checked the old forum a few times a day, so I was COMPLETELY LOST when it went down. Thanks Janzi for stepping in to fill the void.

CCC - you would think the host would accept anybody's money to keep the website up. They wouldn't have to give you any login info or passwords, just re-activate the domain.

I do hope Richard is alright. Just a thought - maybe Fernandez Black kidnapped Richard!

Ted


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: ccc--- on August 31, 2007, 08:33:18 PM
CCC - you would think the host would accept anybody's money to keep the website up. They wouldn't have to give you any login info or passwords, just re-activate the domain.
That's what I offered them, but maybe the misunderstood me. I'll try again.


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: ccc--- on August 31, 2007, 08:48:00 PM
Ok, just transfered them money via PayPal. Now lessee what happens ...


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Janzl on September 01, 2007, 08:33:44 AM
Has anybody ever met Richard in real life? And if yes...   is this thim? :http://www.ukscreen.com/cast/lurpak (http://www.ukscreen.com/cast/lurpak)
If anyone can aknowledge that it is him, maybe we can contact him through here.


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: ccc--- on September 01, 2007, 01:28:08 PM
Has anybody ever met Richard in real life? And if yes...   is this thim? :http://www.ukscreen.com/cast/lurpak (http://www.ukscreen.com/cast/lurpak)
If anyone can aknowledge that it is him, maybe we can contact him through here.
I think that's really him!! Warrington appears also in the whois info of his videopac.org website. And his nick is lurpak here - the same as he had on his Videopac site a few years ago. This *must* be him. I didn't know he's an actor and singer.


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Janzl on September 01, 2007, 04:53:48 PM
Maybe his most succesfull role was.... Fernandez Black  ;)


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: grgh on September 01, 2007, 06:00:06 PM
Unfortunately Richard has moved house from the phone number I got, and they have no new address for him  :( As far as they know, he is OK.

Dieter, I guess that means your snail mail wont get any answer either as I worked out the number from the whois.


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: ANDYRYALS on September 01, 2007, 06:24:15 PM
Welcome List!


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: grgh on September 01, 2007, 11:12:05 PM
i have his new address

Sorry to hear the deal didn't get completed, I know that can be really frustrating! Can you PM me the address please, or email it to me.


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Ozyr on September 01, 2007, 11:19:12 PM
Has anybody ever met Richard in real life? And if yes...   is this thim? :http://www.ukscreen.com/cast/lurpak (http://www.ukscreen.com/cast/lurpak)
If anyone can aknowledge that it is him, maybe we can contact him through here.

Never met him, but that is him (at least I'm 90% sure it is). He goes my Lurpak on the DP board.

Note: He has not posted on DP since July 16 of this year.


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Ozyr on September 01, 2007, 11:27:20 PM
i have his new address

its from me sending him the stuff and him ripping me off
i still have the post office receipt with it on

Wow. I never pictured Richard being the kind of person to rip anyone off. He was so good with stuff from the videopac.org webite.

Personally, I wouldn't jump to conclusions... but this is rather odd. Maybe he just decided to call it quits!?


Only thing that really irritates me is that there was SO MUCH info on the old videopac forum. If no one can contact or get the data, it is history...
 >:(


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: grgh on September 02, 2007, 12:39:39 AM
Mr Lister, did that address start 141a?

I noticed a Ltd company name at the bottom of the google cached page, from that I found a website with the registered address and a phone number for the registered company...


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: ccc--- on September 02, 2007, 02:17:09 PM
Only thing that really irritates me is that there was SO MUCH info on the old videopac forum. If no one can contact or get the data, it is history...
 >:(
I am still trying to get the old site up again.


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: ANDYRYALS on September 02, 2007, 04:53:38 PM
I cant see why everyone is so worried about loosing information from the old videopac.org site we can always scan photos and manuals etc and get them on a site somewhere, the vast majority of the "big" videopac collectors have found this place and I'm sure will contribute if Videopac means so much to them


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Ozyr on September 02, 2007, 08:04:25 PM
Only thing that really irritates me is that there was SO MUCH info on the old videopac forum. If no one can contact or get the data, it is history...
 >:(
I am still trying to get the old site up again.

If you can get it up - do you have 'admin' access? That way you could backup the database, and I'm sure there would be someway to transfer the stuff to here - one way or another.


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Seob on September 02, 2007, 08:17:53 PM
Getting things back will be a lot of work.
I allready have put somethings back online.
You first need the list that rene posted here.
http://home.hetnet.nl/~mdr.vd.enden/download/forum_cache.html (http://home.hetnet.nl/~mdr.vd.enden/download/forum_cache.html)
Then you take the Topic name put it between these markers " " and search google for it.
Then look in the cache of google and you'll find everything you want.


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: ccc--- on September 02, 2007, 08:22:23 PM
Quote
Dear Customer,

I am afraid we can not accept this payment from you as this is not your account and this account has not been suspended due to an outstanding invoice.

I suggest you cancel the payment so you can get it back.

Also as you are not the account holder we can not look into any further correspondence on this matter from yourself.

Regards,
 
Paul Kirk
Business Supervisor

Idiots! I didn't ask for a passwort or something else, I just paid for another year hosting. But now I know at least that payment is not the problem. Probably the php installation needs to be updated or sumsuch.

Yes, I have administrator rights for the old forum. Anyway, I need Richard now because they won't communicate with me anymore. I have his new address so I will send him a letter to the new address. On the other hand - noone seems to be interested to get the old forum back ...  ???


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Rene_G7400 on September 02, 2007, 08:37:08 PM
On the other hand - noone seems to be interested to get the old forum back ...  ???


That ANDYRYALS isn't interested in getting the old forum back doesn't mean that NOBODY is interested in getting it back! I want it back!


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: ANDYRYALS on September 02, 2007, 09:04:07 PM
It's not that I dont want the old forum back, I do! But, I'm a realist we should make do with what we have now and try and make this forum BETTER!


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Ozyr on September 03, 2007, 05:59:48 AM

On the other hand - no one seems to be interested to get the old forum back ...  ???

I want the old Forum back too, but I wonder how this has happened. I can't speculate enough...  I hope your letter reaches him.

As for the site, since it 'is' suspended, it would be nice to know why? If it is not due to the account money being due, they it has to be for some other reason - hacked!? Sure would be nice to know.

Oh well, I'll wait and hope we get some type of answer out of Richard. For now, we are here. If the old Forum comes back, great! If not, they so be it. I don't mind it here (even though there are bits of this forum software that drive me nuts - IMHO).


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: grgh on September 03, 2007, 01:48:45 PM
I hope the old forum will come back, there was effectively 2 years worth of history there.

This has highlighted a SPOF (Single Point Of Failure from last weeks ITIL training...) and maybe Richard would consider letting other videopac.org administrators having more of the site information.


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: ANDYRYALS on September 03, 2007, 09:23:05 PM
I think the chances of Richard getting the old site up and running again are remote, altough never say never


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: grgh on September 03, 2007, 11:20:05 PM
In theory it looks like all he needs to do is apply a patch! The only question is where has he gone...


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: ANDYRYALS on September 04, 2007, 09:51:00 PM
He has probably joined Lord Lucan and Richie Manic from Manic Street Preachers !


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: grgh on September 04, 2007, 11:20:15 PM
Ah so he is living in a car in Australia!


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: ANDYRYALS on September 08, 2007, 08:10:22 PM
 :D


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Sweersa on September 11, 2007, 03:30:35 AM
Wow, boy am I glad I found this forum.

I missed all of you!

I hope the old forum can return, along with all of our discussions and collective information, this just isn't the same old thing you know?

For some reason, I havn't been very active with my Odyssey 2 lately, I think its because I had no one to talk about it with, but now that this forum is here, hopefully that will change.

This is sad.  :-(

Oh well, lets try to make the best of it!

I hope Richard is okay. 



Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Rafael on September 12, 2007, 12:11:49 AM
I really don?t know what happend with Richard, but seems the people are losing the interest by the Ody :'(. Another example is the sites like http://odyssey2.classicgaming.gamespy.com/ and also the brazilian site http://odysseymania.classicgaming.com.br/
No more updates????


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Sweersa on September 12, 2007, 01:50:33 AM
I hope the dark times are not coming for the Odyssey 2/Videopac.

Its harder for me to play my Ody without the old forum....not sure why, this kind of place really fuels my interest.

Hopefully the old forums can be back soon. 


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: grgh on September 12, 2007, 04:59:30 AM
Hey man, no dark times for me, oddy will always be part of my past and therefore my future  ;)


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Sweersa on September 12, 2007, 09:22:12 PM
Yeah, it always helps to have others who share the interest. :-)

Odyssey forever!


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: ANDYRYALS on September 12, 2007, 10:30:45 PM
it may well be that these people do not know that we exist. Besides I think we have plenty of new people to keep the system going.


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Ozyr on September 13, 2007, 03:26:35 AM
Dark time!? Nah. It's always been on the light side when it comes to the O2/VP. Just a true underdog system. As for the O2 Home Page not being updated for a while, I'm guessing that William just hasn't had time to update the site. I've been meaning to do a major update to my own site, but just have not got around to doing it.

I would expect these guys to eventually update...


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Rafael on September 13, 2007, 03:29:46 AM
About the O2 site I ever like to see the collectibles section and now it?s just borken links :-[


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Ozyr on September 13, 2007, 03:33:09 AM
About the O2 site I ever like to see the collectibles section and now it?s just borken links :-[

The site was moved some months back, and as far as I can tell, William has yet to get it all working again.


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: ANDYRYALS on September 13, 2007, 07:15:42 PM
To be brutally honest we really have not had much in the way of updates. We have had some excellent games from Ted and Dieter but apart from that what else? The old VP forum pretty much detailed any news that occured on our scene so whats the point of other sites updating when it's all there on the VP forum?


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Sweersa on September 13, 2007, 10:18:29 PM
To be brutally honest we really have not had much in the way of updates. We have had some excellent games from Ted and Dieter but apart from that what else? The old VP forum pretty much detailed any news that occured on our scene so whats the point of other sites updating when it's all there on the VP forum?

What VP forum?  :-(


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Ozyr on September 14, 2007, 04:17:28 AM
The old VP forum pretty much detailed any news that occured on our scene so whats the point of other sites updating when it's all there on the VP forum?

Um... the forum, old and new, had news and other things. That doesn't mean it was the only source for information about the O2/VP! In my opinion, it did not have 'it all'!

The old forum didn't have detailed info on the the games, hardware, and such. Yeah, Richard's site did, but to a point. Some things where in error, and not all of his scans were up to par. Again, just my honest opinion.

I still like the old O2 homepage, CCC's site, PDF's site, and even Rene's little corner of the net - along with all the other o2/vp fans out there. If it wasn't for us, I really don't think a o2/vp forum would have ever come into place in the first place (I do remember the old forum really sat for about 2 years before it took off!).

And that I still credit largely to Dieter! He was the main reason it took off, with advertising on his site. I remember the old records on the forum that should most members joining after CCC! But enough, I'm not trying to argue here, just show my point of view on the world of Odyssey.

I like the other sites, including my own, and plan on updating my corner of the O2/VP world until them nail shut the coffin!!!
end-of-line


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Rene_G7400 on September 14, 2007, 10:34:08 AM
Yes, thanks to Dieter's CCC website I found the Videopac forum.


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Sweersa on September 14, 2007, 01:03:14 PM
I think I found it through Google. 


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: grgh on September 14, 2007, 01:07:20 PM
I think I found it through google as well, but it was the first time I had searched for videopac stuiff outside of ebay and got results.


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Seob on September 14, 2007, 02:33:13 PM
Found this forum by a reply on the atariage forum.


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: ANDYRYALS on September 14, 2007, 06:30:34 PM
Ebay for me  :D


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Ozyr on September 15, 2007, 01:20:02 AM
Wow, I am amazed that it is hard for people to find O2/vp stuff on the net. I've found plenty of stuff. As for the old forum, I found it years ago, when it was in 'dead mode'. I didn't bother to sign up, till years later, when I found out from Dieter and Rene about the one Richard had started. I knew about it, but was surprised to see it rather active. thus I signed up , and the rest is history. As for this site, I was told about it by a few online friends. Honest, I probably would have found it eventually, without ebay - Google is my friend!

Just nice to have a place were O2/Vp fans can hang out, and not be bothered by those who passionately hate out system of choice! Too bad for them....


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: martyg on September 18, 2007, 06:55:24 AM
Heya guys, just decided to check out the forum as well and found it gone.  On a lark I tried videopac.com and found here.

Oddly, it looks like all the 2007 entries at archive.org were wiped out and replaced with the same "This account has been suspended" message as well, which seems pretty vindictive to me if the hosting company did that.  It could just be how the site was archived there as well, and its trying to pull material from the current site.

I'd be willing to host the site and forums over at ClassicGaming.Com if anyone wants to put it all together again.


Marty
classicgaming.gamespy.com

Atari Gaming Headquarters
www.atarihq.com

Electronic Entertainment Museum
gamingmuseum.gamespy.com

Midwest Gaming Classic
www.midwestgamingclassic.com


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: grgh on September 21, 2007, 05:51:52 PM
Has anybody ever met Richard in real life? And if yes...   is this thim? :http://www.ukscreen.com/cast/lurpak (http://www.ukscreen.com/cast/lurpak)
If anyone can aknowledge that it is him, maybe we can contact him through here.

Never met him, but that is him (at least I'm 90% sure it is). He goes my Lurpak on the DP board.

Note: He has not posted on DP since July 16 of this year.

I think the picture has changed. And: "Creation Date:  2002-11-06 (last update 2007-09-18)"


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: ANDYRYALS on September 21, 2007, 06:54:30 PM
Well if that was Richard, I think it just goes to show how much he must have thought of us all by not getting in contact  >:(


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Rafael on September 22, 2007, 02:35:01 AM
I remember to read anywhere on the old Richard "Page", Richard KPage, so I think he?s really an actor. The cast:
http://www.interfilmes.com/filme_16098_Across.the.Universe-(Across.the.Universe).html
a Shipyard Worker
In fact I?m curious to see Richard acting.


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Ozyr on September 22, 2007, 09:40:08 AM
I think the picture has changed. And: "Creation Date:  2002-11-06 (last update 2007-09-18)"

If this is truly him, and he updated that page on 09-18, then he is still around. Wish we were certain (and are fairly so)... This would mean he has abandoned the videopac site.

I didn't note here, but he has a hotmail account - lurpak@hotmail.com. Per the registrar info for videopag .org
The site expires 24-Nov-2008. If he has truly left this to the wayside, we have over a year to go before the domain can possibly be bought by someone.


Personally, I still hope he reappears... I don't care what excuse he uses, I just want the old site back (not that this one is not bad or anything).


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: ANDYRYALS on September 22, 2007, 02:46:24 PM
it would be nice to have him back as he gave the community a lot. There is loads of stuff on that site which needs saving. Oh well perhaps if a miracle occurs he may come back


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Sweersa on September 22, 2007, 04:19:08 PM
I really wonder what he is up to.  I remember he made a strange thread about someone named....Fernandez?  I always thought that was wierd and I never understood what heppened, do you think it has something to do with the reason why he left?


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: ANDYRYALS on September 22, 2007, 08:04:56 PM
perhaps he's lost his mind?


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Rafael on September 22, 2007, 08:15:36 PM
I really wonder what he is up to.  I remember he made a strange thread about someone named....Fernandez?  I always thought that was wierd and I never understood what heppened, do you think it has something to do with the reason why he left?


No...


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Sweersa on September 23, 2007, 06:36:57 AM
hmm....who knows Richard in real life? 


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Rene_G7400 on September 24, 2007, 01:01:49 AM
I've met him once, but I can't really say I know him.


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: TedFoolery on October 03, 2007, 02:02:55 AM
It looks like there are signs of life at vp.org:

www.videopac.org/ (http://www.videopac.org/)

It looks like everything except the forums are back.


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Rafael on October 03, 2007, 02:51:56 AM
Let?s wait the next chapter ???


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Rene_G7400 on October 03, 2007, 02:53:29 PM
I still get the same "Suspended" page.  ???


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: RickO2 on October 03, 2007, 05:14:39 PM
It looks like there are signs of life at vp.org:

www.videopac.org/ (http://www.videopac.org/)

It looks like everything except the forums are back.
I too have been able to access the site minus the forums.  The games section even has a made-up homebrew cover for Pick Axe Pete 2, was this added before?  I don't remember it but I supose we did have discussions about it a month or two prior to the site going down.


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: dronspa on October 03, 2007, 05:55:42 PM
ccc tried to put online again videopac.org..

The possible cover for PAP2 was at the web a couple of months before its closing.


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: fernandotcl on October 03, 2007, 06:44:50 PM
Odd. I was able to access www.videopac.org when I first read this thread this morning, but now I get an "Under construction" message from the hosting company, I wonder what the hell is going on.


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: ANDYRYALS on October 03, 2007, 07:35:31 PM
Hooray it may be coming back??? ??? ???


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: ANDYRYALS on October 03, 2007, 08:25:40 PM
ccc tried to put online again videopac.org..

The possible cover for PAP2 was at the web a couple of months before its closing.

Yes i remember seeing this as well


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Seob on October 03, 2007, 08:27:05 PM
I get some mortgage page when i'm trying to access videopac.org.
Looks like it has been hacked or so.


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: RickO2 on October 03, 2007, 08:59:51 PM
I get some mortgage page when i'm trying to access videopac.org.
Looks like it has been hacked or so.
It was working earlier but now I'm getting the same stuff as Seob when I go to the site.   >:(


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Janzl on October 03, 2007, 09:43:39 PM
Its the website of the hosting service. Mostly when you have reserved a domain but you haven't uploaded a site yet you get get to see a standard 'splash-page' from the hosting service. This looks to be it. It also mentiones that the site is under construction, so it looks like somebody is working on it.


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Seob on October 03, 2007, 09:53:19 PM
It all sounds like a script for a nice adventure game.


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Ozyr on October 03, 2007, 10:45:53 PM
THe site is showing under construction, but it is now by a new hosting company!

The original was a UK company, this one says it is in Hopkinsville, KY!?

Per the error:

Quote
Permanent address access to this website will be available once all DNS servers update themselves in the next few days.

This looks to me like someone (Richard, Dieter, whomever), is bringing the videopac.org site back up again. Would be nice to know who!?

Stay tuned for developments!!!???


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: grgh on October 03, 2007, 11:50:10 PM
I was able to get onto the games page this morning as well, knew I should have cached it all offline!


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: ANDYRYALS on October 04, 2007, 05:40:06 PM
It's up and running again and there is a forum page as well!


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: grgh on October 04, 2007, 05:42:47 PM
That still wasn't working just an hour ago when I tried it!
None of the old forum there yet though.


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: grgh on October 04, 2007, 06:01:30 PM
http://www.videopac.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: fernandotcl on October 04, 2007, 06:04:56 PM
There's even a post in the forum:

Quote from: VPR
Hello Guys

please don't bother registering or posting anything significant

I shall make it that you dont have to be logged in to post here !!

I now have to try to recreate the database

Quote from: VPR
anything posted will be lost when the database is restored.

please rememberf to type your username into the name box when you post otherwise you will be called guest !!!


Are we supposed to just go back to the old forum when it's rebuilt? I don't know about you guys, but I believe this forum is more reliable than videopac.org's, I'm not sure I want to switch back.


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: grgh on October 04, 2007, 06:11:33 PM
Well I hope if the owner is happy to do it this forum should stay  ???

I'll certainly be hanging around here. Looking at the pages already available I would say what has been restored is somewhere around mid 2006, but I could be wrong.


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: ANDYRYALS on October 04, 2007, 06:17:45 PM
I like this forum!!!  :) I will visit the other one. We need to find out why Richard was offline so long, lets listen to what he has to say.


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Seob on October 04, 2007, 06:29:04 PM
i wil stay with this forum  as well.


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Ozyr on October 04, 2007, 09:23:18 PM
Well, if Richard is back, he's on a new hosting service. Putting the forum back up will take a bit of work - not much - but some. It mainly depends on what he had from the old forum in regards to backup. He would then have to make some changes to the SQL database to make it work on the new host.

I've been through this at least 3 times with my own forum(s), and it is not that fun to do.

If Richard can bring the old forum back up, with the majority of the old post, I will gladly switch back to the old videopac . org forum. This one is good, but I'll be honest in that I do not care for this forum's software. To hard to navigate, and I'm really tired of that issue where you post and it throws you back to the listing - not the post you were in.

Guess if the old forum comes back, it will be a battle of the forums. With a small following in the VP/O2 area, I really don't think we need two forums. I would personally thing that Richard and Robbert will have to work this out themselves - or we could vote on it.

I don't want two forums for our underdog system(s)... Simply put!

Plus, do we need people split between two forums. That would not be good for our little community as a whole, as anyone should realize.

Ack! I will have to admit that I kind of saw this coming. Not to cut Robbert down, but this board should have been put up as a temporary thing until we knew for sure what was happening with Richard - which we still don't know for sure.

Myself, I think I'll wait till Richard gets something back up, and see what he has to say in regards to his absence - and the game orders (route 66) that he hadn't fullfilled yet! Then I will truly make up my mind.




Man, this sucks.....  :(


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: RickO2 on October 04, 2007, 09:35:55 PM
I'm sticking with this forum for now.  I still can't access the videopac.org forum.  Long-term having two independent sites for such a small group might not work well.  I VERY much appreciate this site and the commitment of the hosts to keep the videopac/odyssey 2 discussion alive!!!  

I would want to know the other site is going to be around without getting yanked from us unannounced.  I think Richard owes us an explaination but I'm keeping an open mind.  He was always very helpful whenever I had a question.  


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Ozyr on October 04, 2007, 09:37:16 PM
I like this forum!!!  :) I will visit the other one. We need to find out why Richard was offline so long, lets listen to what he has to say.

I missed your post here. This is the real deal here. We need to know what happened with Richard.

Simple fact that he is putting the old site back up  - under a new host - means that he is still out there. We just don't know what happened. Hope he has a good story!


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Rene_G7400 on October 04, 2007, 11:06:44 PM
With respect to the number of forum members and the number of active Videopac/Odyssey2 collectors I agree that we don't need two forums, but I'm very happy Robbert has made this forum so soon after the other one disappeared, so we could at least talk with each other again, and there are already so many posts on this forum that we can't just throw it away.


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Janzl on October 04, 2007, 11:42:32 PM
A battle of the forums? please no!

I have put this forum as an alternative for the disappeared videopac.org forum. This means that I still very much respect the old forum and all the efforts Richard has put into it.

So we can make this very simple.

Old forum is back, no alternative needed.

You can just collect all the info on this forum that you see as important and put it in the videopac.org forum.

What else can I say...

Thats my opinion. I just host this sucker and try to let the members shape it by their suggestions. I don't consider myself to be a Videopac/Odyssey2 guru but I loved the old forum very much and came up with this forum when the old one was gone because I couldn't deal with the cold-turkey. :-[


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Rafael on October 05, 2007, 12:36:04 AM
Where I find two people talking about ody, I will be there ;)


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Ozyr on October 05, 2007, 01:32:10 AM
Old forum is back, no alternative needed.

You can just collect all the info on this forum that you see as important and put it in the videopac.org forum.

Wow, that is very nice of you - truly! However, if Richard does bring back the old forum (and it looks like it will happen) I still think he owns us to some extent. Over one month with no contact, then his site is up again!? I would think he could have signed up here and posted something (I can't believe he doesn't know this is here).

Main thing I would like Richard to do if the old forum comes back.

I think Robbert should be made a co-administrator of the old forum and site! His work here should be incorporated into the old forum. This would include things like the cool smilies, the overall organization of the forum, and so on. Richard was never one to do certain things, like the smilies, which I bugged him about many times. So, if the old comes back - and Richard has a very good excuse for his absence, make Robbert a Co-Admin!!!

He's got my vote!

P.S. I know that Dieter was co-admin of the old forum, but I think someone needs to be co-admin on a more deeper level, so we don't end up with a repeat of what happened in August. Richard needs to setup his hosting service so that someone else can take over if something happens to him, just in case. I think we realize now how important a O2/VP forum is!


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Phosphor Dot Fossils on October 05, 2007, 06:15:24 AM
I will back up what ozyr is saying here - someone needs to be a co-admin, someone else needs to hold the keys.  Now obviously this can get to be a hairy decision because who would Richard trust that much?  That's really up to him.

I run a site that's two years away from being at the same domain for 10 years, and has been on the web in some form or other since 1995 (and before that, the content that makes up the site goes back to the '80s, to my BBS days).  I most certainly do have a "co-pilot" who holds the keys, can do all the same admin stuff that I can do with regards to maintaining/continuing the site, and God forbid if anything ever happened to me, he'd take over and the rest of the staff would do the best they could to cover for my absence.  You guys would barely notice.   :P  In fact, there was a recent example of this while I was getting ready for the baby, and told everyone that I basically needed a month's content in advance.  (Yeah, sure, no problem, you want it when? they laughed.  ;) )  In a way, that was a test run for any scenario where I'm incapacitated or unavailable for an extended period.

Not that any of that matters to anyone here, but whoever's running the site, they need a co-pilot.  It just makes sense.


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Rafael on October 06, 2007, 03:21:02 AM
Searching the old Richard?s forum I found this one which I never saw before. Who?s the owner of this?

http://www.videopac.org.uk/


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Ozyr on October 06, 2007, 07:29:24 AM
Searching the old Richard?s forum I found this one which I never saw before. Who?s the owner of this?

http://www.videopac.org.uk/

Never seen that one before. Last update in 2005, but 'I Batchelor'!?  ???


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: dronspa on October 06, 2007, 10:36:33 AM
Making a "whois":

Quote
Domain name:
        videopac.org.uk

    Registrant:
        Videopac

    Registrant type:
        Unknown

    Registrant's address:
        21 SOUTHAMPTON ROW
        LONDON
        WC1B 5HA
        GB

    Registrar:
        Claranet Limited [Tag = CLARANET]
        URL: http://www.uk.clara.net

    Relevant dates:
        Registered on: 14-May-2003
        Renewal date:  14-May-2009
        Last updated:  13-Feb-2007

    Registration status:
        Registered until renewal date.

    Name servers:
        ns0.clara.net
        ns1.clara.net
        ns2.clara.net


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: ccc--- on October 06, 2007, 12:36:17 PM
Richard sent me an email. He is allright, but had some private problems and also technical problems with his hoster. I don't want to explain that all in detail, I leave it up to Richard.

As you all saw, the old site is back under a new hoster. There are some technical problems with the forums, especially with importing all the old posts to the new site. This will take a few more days, but the old forum will be online again.

As soon as the forum is back, I will make backups to my HDD frequently, so that a blackout cannot happen again.

Sorry for not being online too much in the last time, I had a lot of work in my company. And in my spare time I am still working on the relaunch of the CCC website which should be online in November. As my business is a season-business, I will have much more time for our hobby from November to February. I am really looking forward to that.

Oh, and here are the release dates for Tutankham:

25th October 2007: Premiere at the Austrian collector's meeting in Vienna *
26th October 2007: Orders from Videopac forum members are taken
1st November 2007: Orders from all other people are taken

* This is our frequent small meeting (every 2 - 3 months) with only six people, so no worry that the game might be sold out after the meeting *lol*

For the first, only one copy per person will be sold, I really want that as many collectors and gamers as possible will be able to play the game. *Maybe* there will be a second edition later so that everyone can buy as many copies as he wants (I *might* do that for Flash Point and Shark Hunter as well).


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: dronspa on October 06, 2007, 02:35:09 PM
Well Dieter, these are very good news!! It's very difficult to export a forum database, hope you get it! ;)

"26th October 2007: Orders from Videopac forum members are taken"
Wow!! We only have to wait 20 days!!!   :D :D


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: manopac on October 06, 2007, 03:54:43 PM
19 ;-)

another first release @ my home ... looks like dieter always waits until its my turn to host the austrian collectors meeting to release his games ... (the last was shark hunter, if I remember right ?)



Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: list on October 06, 2007, 05:00:12 PM
lets just hope richard makes ammends for the game and cover i was suppose to of had months ago


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: ANDYRYALS on October 06, 2007, 07:19:41 PM
We Im just looking forward to get a copy of Route 66m another one to the collection!!


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: ccc--- on October 06, 2007, 08:26:59 PM
I mentioned in my email to Richard that some of you guys are still waiting for stuff they already paid. I am sure he will fix that soon ...


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: ccc--- on October 06, 2007, 08:48:57 PM
19 ;-)

another first release @ my home ... looks like dieter always waits until its my turn to host the austrian collectors meeting to release his games ... (the last was shark hunter, if I remember right ?)


Yes that's true!

Flash Point was released at Eurocon 2004 in Den Haag on 29th October 2004
One copy was auctioned off by Roloff de Jeu: http://www.mayhem64.co.uk/euro2k4/euro2k4v.jpg

Shark Hunter was released at Mark's on 3rd March 2006
http://www.defconsoft.co.uk/collectors-gatherings/at-marks-vienna-march-3rd-2006/

Tutankham will be released at Mark's again ...


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Ozyr on October 09, 2007, 02:47:52 AM
Well, the original (old) forum is back up - not sure if for good now. No post yet from Richard. I posted on there for his reply to what happened. Until then, I will not post there, as I want to know what the heck happened!

Till then, two forums...  :-\


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: odyssey3 on October 09, 2007, 03:46:20 AM
Well, the original (old) forum is back up - not sure if for good now. No post yet from Richard. I posted on there for his reply to what happened. Until then, I will not post there, as I want to know what the heck happened!

Till then, two forums...  :-\
i like this forum..realy cool site..<O3>


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: grgh on October 09, 2007, 03:49:50 AM
I dropped a post just to show I'm interested as well....


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Ozyr on October 09, 2007, 08:18:25 AM
i like this forum..realy cool site..<O3>

Yeah, but we really don't need two forums for a small community - or do we. I would not thing so, as something would have to be posted in both location. Total pain!

I say bring back the old - after we hear from Richard - and frankly ask him to make changed to make his forum more in line with what was created here. I like the way this one is organized, compared to the old one!


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Rene_G7400 on October 09, 2007, 09:05:21 AM

Yeah, but we really don't need two forums for a small community - or do we. I would not thing so, as something would have to be posted in both location. Total pain!


We don't need two, but you wouldn't have to post things twice, you just would have to check both forums regularly for new messages.


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Ozyr on October 09, 2007, 07:28:16 PM
Yeah, your right I guess...

At this point, it looks like it is two for now. Richard is not replying to anything (not sure if he can)!?


As this forum is much more active, for now, I have changed my mind and will mostly avoid the original forum for now. I still think Richard is blowing it  - but that is just my opinion - nothing more, nothing less.

Still thinking about a 3rd. What the heck, the more forums the better... Not.


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: ANDYRYALS on October 09, 2007, 09:40:07 PM
Nooooooo.......... We dont need 2 forums!!! Man what a pain in the bollocks to keep checking 2 forums!!! Lets just have one!! I'll skim the old forum but I like this one. More stuff seems to get done on this one!! Does that make sense!! However things pan out I'll support the o2 community, Richard needs to tell us what's happening and not blow things.


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Rene_G7400 on October 09, 2007, 09:55:31 PM
Apparently Richard has moved his whole website including the complete forum to a new hosting company. Must have been a lot of work I guess, so I think he's really serious about picking the Videopac thing up again.


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Ozyr on October 10, 2007, 03:03:32 AM
Nooooooo.......... We dont need 2 forums!!! Richard needs to tell us what's happening and not blow things.

This is the issue I'm having. Some folks don't care what happened, as long as the old forum it up. However, since Richard had the time to get the whole videopa . org up and running, I would think he would have time for some type of response to his absence.

I do agree that since this forum came up, there is much more activity here. Unless something happens, I don't see Richard dropping his forum, even if most people are here now. I still hate that here when you post something you got back to the post listing (not your post), but otherwise this software is snappy - and organized better than the old forum. Darn thing too - in only one month, this forum has about 1000+ posts - the old forum after two+ years has 7000+ posts!

Again, as I've asked before - Richard needs to communicate - period. I realize he may be having issues (whatever they are - I don't care - as long as he is okay), but I think some words are in order here. Come on Richard - silence here is not golden!


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Sweersa on October 10, 2007, 03:52:33 AM
Nooooooo.......... We dont need 2 forums!!! Richard needs to tell us what's happening and not blow things.

This is the issue I'm having. Some folks don't care what happened, as long as the old forum it up. However, since Richard had the time to get the whole videopa . org up and running, I would think he would have time for some type of response to his absence.

I do agree that since this forum came up, there is much more activity here. Unless something happens, I don't see Richard dropping his forum, even if most people are here now. I still hate that here when you post something you got back to the post listing (not your post), but otherwise this software is snappy - and organized better than the old forum. Darn thing too - in only one month, this forum has about 1000+ posts - the old forum after two+ years has 7000+ posts!

Again, as I've asked before - Richard needs to communicate - period. I realize he may be having issues (whatever they are - I don't care - as long as he is okay), but I think some words are in order here. Come on Richard - silence here is not golden!

I agree, I don't think its to hard to spend 5 minutes to give us bit of an explanation.  But that all depends on what happened, sorry if its really bad. 


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: grgh on October 10, 2007, 04:19:12 PM
It's been a few days now and still nothing, so I'm gunna start making stuff up.

I hear Richard was unable to maintain the forum as he was in prison, anyone know what for?  >:D


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: manopac on October 10, 2007, 04:41:23 PM
bad acting ?  8)

just kiddin ...


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: RickO2 on October 10, 2007, 07:37:56 PM
It's been a few days now and still nothing, so I'm gunna start making stuff up.

I hear Richard was unable to maintain the forum as he was in prison, anyone know what for?  >:D

Perhaps he stumbled acrossed top secret plans from the 1980's that explained how a G7400 with attached modem and program could launch nuclear missles.  The government found out and shut down his website and arrested him before he could share the secret. 

If this is the last post you see from me you'll know I was right!   ;)


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: grgh on October 11, 2007, 03:27:58 AM
I always used to think that Freedom Fighters had actually been written by aliens, and when I was flying it was really a direct connection to a drone in a real life battle somewhere, and the aliens were amazed with my fantastic scores and were going to recruit me as one of their ace drone pilots... but then I woke up.


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Seob on October 11, 2007, 06:50:34 PM
grgh
i think you watched the movie the last starfighter one time to much. ;)


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: RickO2 on October 11, 2007, 07:52:05 PM
Looks like the videopac.org website is down again.  Hopefully its just a maintenance issue.


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Seob on October 11, 2007, 10:18:43 PM
Not even a page from the webhost


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Rene_G7400 on October 11, 2007, 11:58:10 PM
It seems to be back again. (How many more times is this going to happen?)  ???


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Seob on October 11, 2007, 11:59:54 PM
It's up and the forum is back on again, and of again. ???


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Sweersa on October 12, 2007, 02:22:24 AM
I just got Freedom Fighters, it is taking me some time to get good at it, with one controller lol using two is hard for me, the FX are awesome though, the explosion effect rules, and the flying purple guys look 3D.

It rules!


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Ozyr on October 12, 2007, 05:51:02 PM
It seems to be back again. (How many more times is this going to happen?)  ???

This last time was probably just a glitch at the hosting site. I've gotten that problem a few rare times with my service. However, I'm not usually down that long - more like minutes, not hours.


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Ozyr on October 12, 2007, 06:32:26 PM
Nooooooo.......... We dont need 2 forums!!! Man what a pain in the bollocks to keep checking 2 forums!!! Lets just have one!! I'll skim the old forum but I like this one. More stuff seems to get done on this one!! Does that make sense!! However things pan out I'll support the o2 community, Richard needs to tell us what's happening and not blow things.

I've been thinking about this for the last week now, and I'll have to admit that my mind is changing (yeah, I don't stay static that much - my mind likes to wander around on its own).

At this point in time, I think we should just keep the two forums up for now (I'm sure Janzl would like that - I know I would if this were my forum here). Main reasons for my change of mind...

1 - The old forum is rather dead at this point in time. No big fanfares, or welcome back - it just pops up again. Almost everyone is posting here now, period!

2 - I am sure this is the case for several reasons...
2a - No word from Richard yet (except a CCC comment about waiting for him...)
2b - Site has gone down at least once since coming back.

3. After taking some time to warm to this new forum software, I have to admit that I like this better. Yeah, some things about phpBB are great, but this one is better in many ways - and much snappier too!

4. In the long haul, I think most O2/VP fans will make their own choice of forums. Personally, at this point, I think the old one may be on its way out - I hate saying that, but that is what it looks like. But, it's nice to have it up for the older resources on it... whatever I guess.

5. Last, but not least, Mr. Janzl has not shut this forum down as he was going to do!
5a. I think part of this is because of the activity here. I don't blame Janzl for keeping it up, as it is doing well.

That's my two bits for now. As those who know me online well enough, I speak my mind (or at least type my thoughts). For those sensitive folks out there, deal with it!

end-of-line


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Janzl on October 13, 2007, 09:33:53 AM
Let me reply to this...

Point 1: This might be a restarting issue I don't know if Richard is planning for more activity here. As CCC said he had some personal problems so they could be in the way of being as active as Richard wishes to be.

Point 2: see reply to point 1

Point 3: Of course I am not impartial here... so I shouldn't give my opinion... but i have to agree  >:D ;)

Point 4: I think this indeed depends on the choice by the forum(s)members themselves.

Point 5: Yup, the activity here is plenty so I just can't just shutdown this forum.


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: ANDYRYALS on October 13, 2007, 03:47:19 PM
Well I'm staying out of this! But just to say that if Janzl shut this forum down I would have to send a Ninja death squad around to steal his Videopac and all his games.  8)


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: fernandotcl on October 13, 2007, 09:52:06 PM
I'm gradually getting used to SMF. I've always frequented phpBB forums, and I must admit I'm much more used to phpBB. I've never been a forum admin, but I guess SMF is more modern and therefore easier to tweak and maintain. There have been several security issues in phpBB as well, so perhaps an SMF-based forum might really be the best choice.

I find this whole situation very weird. It would take Richard 5 minutes to say "sorry, I had personal problems, but now I've got time to put the site back up and things are gradually getting back to normality". If he doesn't even have time to post something like that to the forums, I don't think he'll be able to keep videopac.org running for too long. I might be wrong, though.

We should all thank Richard for his work on videopac.org, it was really fantastic. However, videopac.nl seems to be much more reliable than videopac.org at the moment, this place is also much better organized and Janzl is always trying to improve it, so I don't see a good enough reason to come back to videopac.org.

Just my R$0,02.


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Ozyr on October 14, 2007, 12:06:02 AM
I wonder if this topic could be changed to 'War of the Forums', instead of About this forum. Most talk is about both...

Ha, I still likes ANDYRYALS comment on staying out of it. By posting, you are part of it!  :P

I still hate having two. But, that is how it goes. Don't forget, I'll be starting a third one by year end.  ;:)


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: grgh on October 14, 2007, 01:45:07 AM
I not going to comment either  :)


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Sweersa on October 14, 2007, 06:26:58 AM
The other VP forum had a lot of dead links in the information sections of the games.  This forum seems much more.."crisp"


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Seob on October 14, 2007, 09:12:09 PM
In the videopac.org forum richard was talking about a change in broadband provider. I know it was in may our something arround that date. Maybe that it also included changing the website provider. Maybe it did take a little longer to get evrything back working again? But it is still strange he has not replyed yet.
For the "forum" war. I like both forum's but the last time i seem to like this forum more. It just looks nicer.


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: ccc--- on October 26, 2007, 12:16:43 PM
Richard's personal problems still keep him away from his forum and the web generally. He brought his site and the forum back up which is good, because we have access to all the old posts, and I was able to make a backup of the database. So nothing from the old forum will ever be lost, even if videopac.org should go down again. I am planning on importing the whole videopac.org forum to my website, but just read-only for now.

Regarding Richard's situation: At this time I don't think that Richard will be active on his website or the videopac.org forum in the next time - maybe even never again.

And here is my 2 cents on the whole situation:

The Videopac community is a very small one (compared to the Atari community for example). Many of you know that in the big Atari community there are different "groups" that are "not really friends". This is probably a natural thing in a big community. Now it seems that the same happens in this small Videopac community. No big thing, but still: The behaviour of some people towards Richard after the site went down is beneath any contempt. He managed the old site and forums for many years on his own cost and now there is only bashing and "the old thing was always crap - this new thing is much better". Of course he made faults, but as he told me he is going to ship all the items that were already paid, or he has already shipped them.

Janzl was the first to jump on the wagon after the old one crashed, and you can't be mad at him. It was a brilliant opportunity to make a previous unknown site famous, even though I am sure that was not his intention - he just wanted to give all the people from the old forum a new home.

Anyway, both forums, the old one and the new one, have advantages and disadvantages. I don't like SMF forums and I don't like those Munchkin smileys, but that is my personal taste of course. There are also things in the old forum that I don't like ...

Conclusion: I hate this situation with the two forums - and that is one reason why I am pretty much inactive at the moment. It could be much easier with one forum. But the situation is changing: the community decides - and it has decided that this forum will be the new Videopac forum. In my opinion the old forum will just be an information source in the future, not more. Janzl seems to have much time and enthusiasm for the forum, so this is probably the best solution and as the old forum is dead, this will be the Videopac forum of the future.


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: grgh on October 26, 2007, 05:38:40 PM
At this time I don't think that Richard will be active on his website or the videopac.org forum in the next time - maybe even never again.

I really would like to know what has happened so serious that it may stop his videopac and web stuff so completely. Hey, do you think he'll sell me Radiola 45 ???  :) Just kidding, I hope everything works out for him whatever his troubles are.

Many of you know that in the big Atari community there are different "groups" that are "not really friends". This is probably a natural thing in a big community. Now it seems that the same happens in this small Videopac community.

I don't think there is anything unfriendly or malicious, or a situation with two separate camps. Some people voiced their unhappiness at the loss of the site and the non-delivery of stuff they had paid for, but I think that was frustration.

Lets remember the good, as you say he paid for the forum to be active, and move on, too enjoying what we are all here for. Lets just be thankful that Richard gave us the opportunity to see all that old info when he hasn't even got the time/opportunity to be online.

Lets not start a he said / he said debate, lets move on and play some videopac games..... or maybe knock ozyr off some of those arcade top spots he has held for too many days.


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Ozyr on October 26, 2007, 06:01:34 PM
Lets not start a he said / he said debate, lets move on and play some videopac games..... or maybe knock ozyr off some of those arcade top spots he has held for too many days.

Hey, I heard (saw) that!  :P

Yeah, in regards to Richard, its his personal life. I really don't care anymore what happened, just that he is okay and hopefully in good health. It is nice that he at least brought up the forum for the information - he really could have just left it down - but he didn't.

Richard, if was fun while it lasted!  ;D


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Sweersa on October 28, 2007, 08:07:08 PM
Richard, it was fun while it lasted!  ;D

THATS what SHE said!!!!



Sorry, I had to say it.


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: ANDYRYALS on October 29, 2007, 07:25:55 PM
put your handbags away gentlemen  ;:)


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Rafael on November 02, 2007, 02:13:31 AM
Regarding Richard's situation: At this time I don't think that Richard will be active on his website or the videopac.org forum in the next time - maybe even never again.

Since you seems the only to contact Richard, maybe you know if he had plans to continue the project which involves Fernandez - The Black?


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: ccc--- on November 02, 2007, 08:05:23 AM
Regarding Richard's situation: At this time I don't think that Richard will be active on his website or the videopac.org forum in the next time - maybe even never again.

Since you seems the only to contact Richard, maybe you know if he had plans to continue the project which involves Fernandez - The Black?

No, I don't have a clue who or what Fernandez Black is. I might ask him next time I mail him.


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Rafael on November 02, 2007, 01:12:28 PM
In fact I know who?s Fernandez the Black, but I don?t know specifically about the Fernandez, but the idea where Fernandez was included. Ask him for details and if he wants to continue, maybe you can do it.


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Gorf on December 14, 2008, 12:50:56 PM
Greeting folks,

It's good to be here and great to see the Magnavox consoles
still being appreciated. I just last night, thanks to a post about
getting your own O^2 games to run on o2em, got my first pixels
to show up(a BCD print) on O2EM. So I decided to join and get a
few pointers on coding techniques and tricks for the O^2/Videopac.

Gorf

 :)


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Rene_G7400 on December 14, 2008, 07:49:16 PM
Hi Gorf, welcome!

There aren't many Odyssey2/Videopac programmers, so it's always nice to see a new one.  :)


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Gorf on December 14, 2008, 07:59:23 PM
Hi Gorf, welcome!

There aren't many Odyssey2/Videopac programmers, so it's always nice to see a new one.  :)


'NEW' is the operative word.....like I said, last night was my first
time getting ANYTING to work on the O2/VP based systems.

I've always wanted to since the very day I bought the system
and indeed the reason why I bought it...It looked like I could
program it.

Littel did I realize 20+ years later, we'd have emu's to make this possible.
:D


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Gorf on December 14, 2008, 08:04:59 PM
Oh and btw...thanks for setting this place up Janzl.

We do appreciate your efforts, time and money it
prbably cost you to do this.
:)


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Rene_G7400 on December 14, 2008, 10:37:59 PM
Littel did I realize 20+ years later, we'd have emu's to make this possible.

You'll need the emu for the O2, because as far as I know there are currently no RAMcarts for sale for the Odyssey2/Videopac consoles. A RAMcart does exist, but only very few copies have been made of it.

O2em works pretty well. Of course it has some limitations. One of them is that you can't check the problems that occur on the real hardware when two or more characters overlap.


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Gorf on December 15, 2008, 01:43:57 AM
No I understand but I do have two O^2's laying around
and if need be can sacrifice one of those carts(a double
of something common) and pop and Eprom in there instead.
Or I could always make my own RAM cart(not likely however.)

:)



Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Janzl on December 15, 2008, 09:04:45 AM
Oh and btw...thanks for setting this place up Janzl.

We do appreciate your efforts, time and money it
prbably cost you to do this.
:)

Thanks Gorf, and welcome to this forum :). Sure is nice to see another programmer joining the ranks. I know how eager peoples over here are to see new games released. :)


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Seob on May 22, 2010, 10:29:32 AM
Yet another spammer


Title: Re: About this forum...
Post by: Janzl on May 24, 2010, 04:11:47 PM
De-spammed!  >:D