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I'd sell my mother for a Videopac
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I now can cross that bloody street...
« on: September 22, 2022, 10:49:54 AM »

Hello all,

Unfortunately I have made the decision to end the forum comming April 2023.

The reasons are technical, financial and personal.

Technically the forum is not up to date to modern standards. Solving this is beyond my capabilities but also beyond the motivation I have left for maintaining it.

Why have I not much motivation left? Well, the scene has made some drastic changes since I started collecting in the nineties. And unfortunately these changes mostly aren't for the better.
  • I HATE the way that prices have gone out of control and that it has gone from a hobby to a money grabbing business.
  • The petty online behaviour of people nowadays is just sad and I am fed up having to deal with that
  • The whole brasil scene is a complete cloud of mystery to me, it's so tiny but still they manage to raise wars amongst themselves and they seem keen on creating collectors items which are almost unobtainable for a reasonable price for the rest of the word
  • The refusal to release rom's, which makes sure that most people won't be able to play all the games. I also collect C64 and they release 99% on roms.
  • The whole fun hobby feeling is gone.

And that sums up a lot of my personal reasons why I'm quitting the forum.
I have basically stopped collecting, I think I have 99% of the stuff I want to have for videopac and prices have made me loose motivation to keep going on.

Financially, hosting prices have gone through the roof. I just paid a "nice" bill when the whole brasil fight started, I wasn't very motivated to keep the forum running in the first place but that sort of was the final blow. I decided not to act on instinct and give it some time for consideration but unfortunately that has not changed my mind.

So... the forum will stay online till April, if anyone is interested in taking over make me an offer. (yes this will be the only moneygrab I'll ever do for the hobby but after fifteen years of hosting, checking, paying, refereeing and putting out fires, I think I deserve that).

Sorry that that's the way it has to be, but I have made up my mind.

Please browse the forums thoroughly to collect all info that you find interesting because there has been posted a lot of that over the years and after April 2023 it will all be gone. I don't know how much you can trust the waybackmachine.

Cheers my Videopac/Odyssey2 brothers!

« Last Edit: September 22, 2022, 12:33:46 PM by Janzl » Logged

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Post Axe Pete!
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« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2022, 01:57:51 PM »

I am really very sorry to hear that Robbert, but I understand you a hundred percent!

For exactly the same reasons I almost completely stopped buying retro games. I am not willing to spend so much time and money anymore. Ten, fifteen years ago the games were easier to find and much cheaper. Then came the greedy money grabbers, with WATA and VGA as the inglorious highlights of this insanity ...

Unfortunately retro game collecting transformed from a hobby to a business.

I am happy with what I gathered in the 1990s, 2000s and to a certain grade in the 2010s and I am enjoying my collection.

Pickaxe Brad!
Played Munchkin once...
Posts: 93

« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2022, 04:42:27 PM »

April will mark my two year anniversary in this forum.  My apologies to the group for bringing the group down.  Wink  But thank you, Janzi for hosting this amazing trove of Videopac knowledge for as long as you have.  I appreciate the time and effort (and money) you've spent doing this and I can understand that you're taking a step back.

I am, by far, the least accomplished Odyssey programmer on here, but I can say that I wouldn't have been able to get started O2 programming without all the info/examples/help from the Programming section.  (Yes, I read every post in there before I wrote anything to the forum.). I am worried that without all those examples and information that there won't be anyone else coming to program.

From reading all of the posts from the last dozen years or so, I seem to miss the old days too--even though I wasn't on here back then.  I feel like I have the energy and passion and excitement that most of you guys went through 10 years ago.  I hope that there's a new place for us to go to keep the dream alive...and possibly bring in some new faces?

But secretly, I'm hoping that this is just an elaborate setup for the greatest April Fool's fake-out in the history of this forum!

I make 0.174 posts per day.
Game & App Development
Give this man a Jopac!
Posts: 1178

« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2022, 08:18:39 PM »

Very sad to see it got, but I also understand all the reasons you gave and feel for the most part exactly like you ...

I would have loved to release Grid Defender with a post on this forum, alas I am not going to have it my way (sometime in the 2030s) ...

thank you for all the hard work/time/money you invested in the last many many years - it was very much appreciated and the forum will be missed (you will not be missed of course as we will stay in touch anyways ;-) )

sex, lies, and videopac
Trying to get the cartridge in...
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« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2022, 08:44:25 AM »

Hi, i can understand you completely, and i am also very sad...

I got so much help here in the forum and there are so many technical / repairinfos here, that i hate to loose... without this informations it will be hard for future Videopac fans to get the help they might need...

I am very grateful for all your energy, work and money you have invested into this forum! BIG THANKS!

Cheers, TOM:0)
Attacked the Timelord
Posts: 106

« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2022, 03:22:37 PM »

Your feelings are understood and shared.

Thank you,
Attacked the Timelord
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« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2022, 09:24:19 PM »

I have no words. Just sad.
Tom Beck
Give this man a Jopac!
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« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2022, 09:48:35 PM »

It took me some time to realize what I read. I don't want to believe it until now, but it seems to be the bitter reality.

I can understand the reasons mentioned, but I am still infinitely sad. This will make my favorite hobby a lot more boring. Back when Dieter advised me to join the forum, I didn't know how many nice hours I would spend here. I met so many nice people who love Videopac as much as I do. With some I also have email contact outside the forum, but others I have known for years only through the forum and it hurts my soul to lose sight of them. It was quite normal to read about them regularly over the years and now they will disappear for me forever. That hurts.  Cry

What's next? I can only think of Atariage as a starting point. I didn't really like the forum there. I was always happy to return here.

With all the bad news in the world, this is the highlight for me now. That was the only thing that was missing, because it is now directly affecting my hobby. And there I had so far a healthy carefree world...

Wink  Killed the Killer Bees  Wink
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Totally devoted to Videopac
Posts: 1863

« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2022, 07:12:52 PM »

It's the final blow !
The end of our european community !

Videopac digger
Freedom Fighter
Posts: 306

« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2022, 07:56:00 PM »

I fully understand your decision, but I also feel this will kill the European community.
Maybe we can figure out some succession... Start a new forum (while preferrably carrying ovrr the existing content) or just keep the current forum and transfer to a new ownee / host. I also assume that at least some core users are willing to pay, so I was wondering what are the annual maintenance cost?
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