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Idea for homebrew/hack

Started by steelballs, January 18, 2010, 06:23:10 PM

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steelballs

This is aimed at the clever guys here who can hack/program the videopac.

Would it be at all possible to make a "Wolfenstein" hack from Tutankham, any thoughts on this one ???


ANDYRYALS

I was thinking we could maybe try Halo 3, or Avatar  ???
I have 12"

steelballs

Should I take this as a serious reply to this thread Andy because it certainly doesn't come across as one ???

manopac

#3
It certainly is a problem that people think that Wolfenstein 3D was the first Wolfenstein game ...

but back to topic: would be difficult, as the main point in Wolfenstein is shooting, and just with a hack of the rom that can't be achived ... but I can certainly see it having a conversion on videopac, it actually looks like it was made for the system :-)

EDIT: here's a link for the post 8-bit generation ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_Wolfenstein
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steelballs

#4
Thank you Manopac, that's why I aimed the question at people who know about programming because I don't know the first thing about it.

The idea just came to me looking at the maps from Tutankham, a lot of items in the game, lots of rooms, but indeed shooting is the main part of Wolfenstein and I wasn't sure how that would be achieved or if it could be achieved but you answered that for me.

Wouldn't it be great to have a videopac version of this classic, a game that is still around today ??? Maybe a plus version spicing up the background a little  :D

Forgot to add, there is a hack on Packrat's site for a 2600 version, could something like that be achieved on the videopac?

Rene_G7400

I don't know the Wolfenstein game, but in Tutankham you can shoot.

steelballs

Okay, it's time for me to give Tutankham a good playing - I put it in to test it when I got it and ran around a bit but never had enough time to get into it,  maybe also a bit of RTFM, which I am constantly guilty of!!!  :D

What do you think Ren?, could this be a realistic project for someone?

Rene_G7400

Quote from: steelballs on January 19, 2010, 11:03:23 PM
What do you think Ren?, could this be a realistic project for someone?

As I said I don't know the Wolfenstein game (or any other non-Videopac game  ;D).
My experience is that modifying an existing game is tougher than you might expect. Modifying colors and sprite shapes is easy, but most other things are difficult since we don't have the original source code. Tutankham is 8k already (the maximum for a normal Videopac game) and has almost no free space. Modifying the rooms like Manopac described can be done, changing colors and sprite shapes too, but other changes will probably be very difficult.

manopac

Quote from: Rene_G7400 on January 19, 2010, 10:46:02 PM
I don't know the Wolfenstein game, but in Tutankham you can shoot.


damn .... you are right !! might be possible after all :-) well ... the enemies wouldn't shout "Halt!" at you and instead of shooting they would just follow you, but basically it can be done ... if you change the levels as I described in the Tut thread, you should be able to rebuild it more or less :-)

but the problem is as Rene said: to change the gameplay you would have to reengineer the whole source, and 8KB is a lot of instructions, even though some of it is data :-)
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Rafael

I never played the game before, but watching some videos on Youtube, maybe AMOK could be another option ???

steelballs

I'll leave it with the guys who really know about programming, maybe a nice project for someone who is interested or has the time ??? If anyone does decide to have a go at it then let me know if I can help in any way.

I just think that a decent version could be made of this and to have such a well known title on the videopac would be nice.

Janzl

Well, watching the video I think it is a nice game to be the first videopac+ homebrew release. Of course our american friends here won't be to enthousiastic about it as I think Ozyr is the only one owning a G7400. If I remember correctly of course.
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manopac

Quote from: steelballs on January 20, 2010, 05:53:31 PM
We could also "borrow" the original C64 artwork as a basis for the videopac artwork:  8)

thats already the artwork for the sequel :-) I actually never played that one, have to give it a try ...
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Seob

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