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Started by Rene_G7400, March 22, 2008, 12:24:20 AM

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Rene_G7400

Check Videopac.org : Richard has left a message, apparently Videopac.org will disappear soon!

grgh

hmmm...... Ozyr, what your take, I know you can speak your mind  :)
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RickO2

Quote from: Rene_G7400 on March 22, 2008, 12:24:20 AM
Check Videopac.org : Richard has left a message, apparently Videopac.org will disappear soon!

This is unfortunate.  I still use that site to look up past forum posts and for the game info.

Sweersa

This is sad, can someone post a link to Richards message please?  I can' seem to find it. 

mjb

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I'm not sure I get what he's saying....is he mad because someone started a new site when his was down?

Rene_G7400

Quote from: Recycled on March 22, 2008, 02:59:13 PM
I'm not sure I get what he's saying....is he mad because someone started a new site when his was down?

One of the things he's saying is that his forum is hardly used anymore and it costs him too much money to keep it online.

Sweersa

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Quote from: mjb on March 22, 2008, 12:40:38 PM
Try this http://www.videopac.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1271

Thank you.  Why didn't any of us really migrate back to Videopac.org?  I personally didn't do it because I feared it may go away again and because everybody stayed here. 

ANDYRYALS

Well I still have no idea why the hell the site went down in the first place. And any explanation that was given was so incredibly flakey that it beggars believe that Richard wonders why we are all here! Videopac.Org was great, this site is better. I think a lot of people were pi$$ed off by the way Videopac.org saga got handled. ??? ???
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ANDYRYALS

Just had a quick skim and now people are posting over there as well, this is probably why one board is good for the videopac community and not two
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Packrat

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Quote from: grgh on March 22, 2008, 04:27:31 AM
hmmm...... Ozyr, what your take, I know you can speak your mind  :)

You want my honest opinion on this, okay, here it goes then (and yes, I do speak [type] my mind!)

(I've already spoke my mind to some extent on the old board, in reply to Richard. Read it while it lasts.)


1 - First off, I think it is nice that Richard gave out the Odyssey PDF magazine he created. Nice last minute good bye to the O2/VP community.

2 - Complaining about the cost of running an Odyssey2/Videopac forum honestly in kind of lame. If you don't like to lose money on running a Web site, then don't do it. Most video game fan sites lose money, as does mine. Do I complain about it, maybe a little. However, I enjoy doing it, so around $100 a year is no big deal. Honestly, $100 (whatever in England or Europe), is nothing if you have a regular paying job. It is a drop in the bucket.

Also, I pride myself at having virtually no advertisement on my site (I have one Amazon.com link), which Richard kept trying to do to pay for the old site/forum. I refuse to put up ebay stuff, google links, and the like. I've thought about them, but I don't like them, thus I don't do them.

Back on subject though, if it is costing Richard too much, then drop the site. Just do it, and move one. And honestly, I hate having two forums. It'll be nice to just have one again!

3 - As far as I can tell from Richard's post, his main complaint is the cost to fix a hacked forum. It sounds like it was hacked and/or the data badly damaged. He also gripes about how backups didn't work on a MOD'd forum.

Well, I've been there, and still have my own little forums (hidden away for the most part). Yes, you can backup a MOD'd forum, you just need to know what you are doing. I've had some hairy experiences with php forums, but managed to pull through with the community on the phpBB support forum.

As for Richard talking about paying to restore the old forum, I wish he would have posted that he needed help first. There is a good chance one of us could have helped him, and for much less money. This is my biggest gripe - no communication. Only now do we find out that his site was apparently hacked (or corrupted), and he took months to get it fixed. He should have simply posted this from the start. Now, I've got nothing personal against Richard, but this whole thing could have been handled better. Simple fact.

4 - The comment on fickle members spatting their dummies (his exact words) was kind of odd. But, as I see it, he is just spouting a bit of anger/frustration that his forum and site are no longer really used anymore. Again, his own fault for not communicating. This also could be in reference to some members here who have complained about not getting things that they paid for - and they have that right to complain! As far as I know, some people never received things they paid for, yet!

But, I think his main point is the new forum, which went up when his went down. Frankly, let the old one die, and I have not like two forums at all. This one is designed much better, no ads, no complaints about needed money to keep it running, etc! Thus, goodbye old forum, it was fun while it lasted. (And please, don't keep the old one going, just go out with some dignity Richard!).

(On a side note, I will admit that I think Robbert put up this forum too quickly. It was supposed to be temporary, but it expanded way to fast. Note Robbert, this is just my opinion, nothing more or less. I don't mean any insult, but I am speaking my mind. It is water under the bridge at this point though.)

5 - As for thanking his friends, that is cool. Not sure if he considers me one, but I like that he gave me credit in the Odyssey magazine he created. Plus, I never had much of a problem with Richard, except for the silence when the old forum went down.

6 - As for someone buy the old domain site, anyone here is welcome to it. I would guess that Richard will ask at least ?500+ for it (to recap his loses).

In a nut shell, out with the old forum, long live the current forum!

end-of-line


P.S. Since the old forum is going away, would people stop posting on there then, please! Just let it go with some grace, and let it have a nice quick death!

And, if Richard reads this, I still personally have no ill regard towards you in general. Things could have been handled better, but no one is perfect (and I should know, I've made plenty of mistake, that is life). Thanks for the old forum, while it lasted. It was fun for a few years. Time to move forward though... Good luck in life, and whatever lies ahead!

Packrat

So, grhr, was that enough!  :P

(I'll have to admit, that felt good getting that off my chest).

Janzl

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Quote(On a side note, I will admit that I think Robbert put up this forum too quickly. It was supposed to be temporary, but it expanded way to fast. Note Robbert, this is just my opinion, nothing more or less. I don't mean any insult, but I am speaking my mind. It is water under the bridge at this point though.)

No insult taken!  :)

Maybe i put the forum up a little to quickly, but if you have the sick habbit of getting up in the morning and one of the first things you do is checking a vpac/O2 forum you start to act weird when it's gone. Some people have that with heroin but I have skipped that stuff and decided to go for a forum which is healthier in my opinion.
So in a frenzy of cold turkey I started to set up this forum.

This explains my hastely behaviour  ;:)

The forum was meant to be temporary at first, the goal was to put up a place where everyone could stay in touch until the old forum was back. But the old forum stayed away for quite some time and more and more people were telling me that they prefered this forum and were very fond of it. I decided to let the people make the decision for themselves. When the old forum finally came up almost everybody made it clear that they wanted to use the new one.

So... by kind of a democratic decision I kept this forum up and running.

I don't know what the exact meaning of "some fickle members spat there dummies and so the site is not used anymore" is. My english is okay but the meaning of some sayings elude me. The last quote is one of them. I get the impression though that it is also directed to me.
Seems like Richard is getting his frustrations of his chest. I somehow can understand that but I wish he would have let us known something. It would have been very easy to send a message to the community like: "People, the old forum is comming back you can stay in touch, until then, on the new one" or something like that. People would have known what they were up to and I would have willingly participated in letting the new forum die once the old one was ressurected. This would have saved a lot of frustrations for a lot of people.

I'm sorry if I have offended anyone by giving the impression that I wanted to TAKE OVER THE WOOOORLD!!! ;) That was absolutely not my intention.

Janzl
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Rene_G7400

Quote from: Janzl on March 23, 2008, 08:29:02 AM
Maybe i put the forum up a little to quickly, but if you have the sick habbit of getting up in the morning and one of the first things you do is checking a vpac/O2 forum you start to act weird when it's gone.
So in a frenzy of cold turkey I started to set up this forum.

I check the Videopac forum more than once a day too, so I'm very glad we got a new forum so quickly. Most of the time when websites suddenly disappear, they don't come back. If I would have known that it would, I wouldn't have spent so much time going through Google's cache to find the posts of the old forum. How were we supposed to know that the old forum would come back after about one and a half months? If the forum was so important to Richard, there must have been a way for him to let us know something, unless he was in hospital or in prison.

Quote from: Janzl on March 23, 2008, 08:29:02 AM
So... by kind of a democratic decision I kept this forum up and running.

I agee: after the old forum came back we had a choice: stay here or go back. Apparently most of us wanted to stay here.

Quote from: Janzl on March 23, 2008, 08:29:02 AM
I don't know what the exact meaning of "some fickle members spat there dummies and so the site is not used anymore" is. My english is okay but the meaning of some sayings elude me.

I was wondering what that meant too. I think I get the idea of it now.

ANDYRYALS

Re: the comment about being fickle, Richard basically thinks we are all two faced.
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